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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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whats the best air filter that you can reckonmend for a saff cossie 4x4 on a stage 2 chip. Does anyone have any photos too.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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Panel filter in the oe box imo.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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think i had a massive pipercross one on my old saph and it sounded cool.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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I ment induction kit not panel filter hee hee. Ive got a pipercross filter on my car now but ive got holes appearing in the foam part. I was looking at the KnN induction kits/cone filters and just wanted to know what people thought.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Big group a k&n one from woodford garage m8.
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Aye ad say k&n aswell glenn ave got one on mine
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Wouldnt use anything but K&N cant beat the sound here is a pic

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I have to agree with bigad4x4, the noise of the turbo sucking in air there a huge cone is only surpassed by the subsequent fluttering of the wastegate
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I run a cone filter on my cos but for the life of me i cant hear it,all i hear is the exhaust and wastegate
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i prefer the foam type, so i have a RamAir one on mine


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GRP A K&N is the way to go

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The BEST at that power level is without a doubt the standard airbox and even the standard paper element or K&N panel .

FYI, wastegates do not make any noise .

If you must have a cone filter, at least make a sealed box for it .
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Thanks for the advice mike.I do like the sound of a cone filter.Charlie Luciano Will a group A KnN cone filter fit on a standard cossie turbo.My car has samco hoses on too.Do you get different types of fittings/truppets with a group A
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Charlie Luciano Will a group A KnN cone filter fit on a standard cossie turbo.My car has samco hoses on too.Do you get different types of fittings/truppets with a group A
I think the trumpet is a one size fits all thing, so with regards to your top turbo hose, push it up on the trumpet as far as it will go then pinch up the jubilee clip


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Sweet ive had a look in fast ford mag and noticed woodford garage motorsport selling then for 99.95.I will have to get one bought.Do they also have the hole for the little pipe that goes to the amal valve.
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You need to specify what trumpet size when ordering, these come sized to suit the turbo!
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What size is the standard pipe/size for a standard turbo
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Do they also have the hole for the little pipe that goes to the amal valve.
No, the pipe that used to go into the airbox from the amal valve will just hang atmospheric

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You need to specify what trumpet size when ordering, these come sized to suit the turbo!
I stand corrected I thought they were universal


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think standard is 60mm
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I will have to get my measuring stick out and measure it. My measuring stick only goes up to 12inches lol.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
I will have to get my measuring stick out and measure it. My measuring stick only goes up to 12inches lol.

Wishful thinking there


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Well you know hee hee real men drive cossies lol.
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Originally Posted by cossie604
Panel filter in the oe box imo.
Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
I ment induction kit not panel filter hee hee.
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
The BEST at that power level is without a doubt the standard airbox and even the standard paper element or K&N panel .
Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Thanks for the advice mike.
I get laughed at but Rainbum with the same advise get's thanked...I get'cha
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Originally Posted by bigad4x4
Wouldnt use anything but K&N cant beat the sound here is a pic

sorry to hi jack, just wondering what the small metal strip rivetted to the slam panel is for mate?
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Originally Posted by scotty4130
sorry to hi jack, just wondering what the small metal strip rivetted to the slam panel is for mate?
thats to stop some dick trying to pop your bonnet by pulling the cable through the grill !!!!!!!
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Thats a good idea about that stainless steel panel. I know my car alarm is good cause sometimes i carnt get into it lol.
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if u actualy want the best for cough,cough "filtration"......then apexi do the better job.......but i suspect it's just for the noise.................init..........
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
FYI, wastegates do not make any noise .

Hi Mike, the wastegate on a turbo does openad close/flutter when you come off the gas, this noise is the wastegate chatter right?

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Originally Posted by wildwill
Hi Mike, the wastegate on a turbo does openad close/flutter when you come off the gas, this noise is the wastegate chatter right?

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The noise you are hearing is turbo stall.

If you don't believe me, grab hold of the actuator and get a mate to blip the throttle. Report back .
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Originally Posted by wildwill
Hi Mike, the wastegate on a turbo does openad close/flutter when you come off the gas, this noise is the wastegate chatter right?

Ww

or you can replicate the sound by spraying a hose pipe at an electric fan, report back , lol,
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
or you can replicate the sound by spraying a hose pipe at an electric fan, report back , lol,
...........buzzn...
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K+N all the way - here's mine:

Sorry for cack angle on pic..

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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The noise you are hearing is turbo stall.

If you don't believe me, grab hold of the actuator and get a mate to blip the throttle. Report back .
Listen to this man, he knows a thing or two

Originally Posted by pete mcrash
if u actualy want the best for cough,cough "filtration"......then apexi do the better job.......but i suspect it's just for the noise.................init..........
Thanks Mr Chav

Originally Posted by Weeksy
K+N all the way - here's mine:

Sorry for cack angle on pic..

Very nice


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Thanks dude
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Grp A cars never ran cone filters.
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Hi charlie luciano

There is no questioning Mikes knowledge, i am looking to understand more and rectify any misunderstandings that i have.

Mike you have a PM from me

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Originally Posted by StickerPaul
Grp A cars never ran cone filters.
The GGR RS500 Grp A car did, but it was encased in an alloy airbox arrangement......
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
The GGR RS500 Grp A car did, but it was encased in an alloy airbox arrangement......
That was a touring car Mike, did they call Touring Cars Grp A as i was under the impression Grp A was just Rally Cars?
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I believe it was Grp A Touring cars as well.
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