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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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Do you know anyone thats been done if so what was the fine / e.t.c

I known C&E arnt usually impressed.

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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Highly unlikely you will get caught, however pretty sure its a BIG fine.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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i know someone that was caught, a Ł500 fine on the spot for a first offence and tank random testing over the next year where he also has to show his diesel receipts to prove he's buying legitimately. second offence i believe and you forfeit the vehicle.
if your using it in a car your much less likely as it tends to be vans randomly stopped and checked.
at Ł1 a gallon from a building site near you its worth the risk.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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i've been caught twice and let away with it twice
1st time was towing car to knockhill, my towcar was full to the brim with cherry, trailer had 2 baldy tyres(i didn't know about these), and lights not working on trailer, was 7am and snowing heavy, guy just couldn't be bothered and told me to get to fuck, i know how lucky i was, but
2nd time my car was lying outside my work
i worked in bonnybridge at the time which is a haven for red diesel, anyhow
they dipped my tank but couldn't do anything about it as itwas parked in a private car park and not on the public road, was obviously warned that if it was seen on the road it would be stopped and siezed,
anyhow lesson learnt
my 406 work horse has only ever seen red once since i got it and thats cause somebody got a loan of it, i only ever use white now, i'm not tempring fate the 3rd time
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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I know tons of folks that use and none have been caught.
I think worst case is that they can take car off you??
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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I know a few people who use it and never been caught


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I guess you increase your chances by asking on a public forum??
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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i ran cherry in our derv for 4 months when the fuel went to stuupid prices, fuck em, but as soon as it came back down to what it is now i went back to normal, but to be honest i run a normal late boring car thats not even registered to us, the cars just show as in trade etc on pnc.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Yeah i know someone who uses it aswell, and our next door neighbours
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I guess you increase your chances by asking on a public forum??
Long shot for a C&E person to know me never mind spot the car i drive.

Iv got 250 litres just seems a shame to have it sat here and not use in my Derv,

Its boggo standard looking clean car, few years old all insured, tax and mot'd, it dont go fast enough to ever worried about getting done for speeding.

I do about 500 mile a week a moment

so 250 litres of cherry is 3000 miles of free travel, would be nice
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get it in
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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ha ha a mate of mine ran it for years he was paid milage for useing his car for work lol
he was making Ł600 a month profit because he was claiming his fuel per mile. he never got pulled and even wrote a car off with red in the tank and never got a pull. the woman at work ran it in her car for 3 years then got caught with a full tank they took her car drained it flushed it out and billed her, in total with her fine it cost her just over Ł500 she ran a month on white then went back to red lol i got free dinners in the works canteen for my fuel tickets lol and as far as i no she's still at it lol
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i get milage as well
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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get the fooker in it mate who gives a fook plenty worse things happen every day save yaself a few quid, if you are sensible about it you won't get caught. just don't fill up inview of anyone that may dob ya in out of spite
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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If the old bill/ministery are behind you you'll get nicked as its smokes like fuck


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didnt think it smoked any different, i would put in the tank in me lock up garage
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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does it hell makes no difference atall
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
If the old bill/ministery are behind you you'll get nicked as its smokes like fuck


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it doesnt.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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My Dad always used to say red derv smokes like fuck when used, he's an old hgv/pcv driver,


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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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keep away from m62 rochdale you wont see as many vosa galaxy`s ever anywhere pulling all kinds in to be fully checked fuel, wieghts and mechanicals
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So there's nothing to give it away apart from a dip test? No excess smoke, different sort of smell etc?
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you'l only get caught if u are stupid! fill up behind closed doors and dont tell no-one, doesnt smoke any worse than the white stuff unless its contaminated...... works a treat mate
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Originally Posted by pani_k
So there's nothing to give it away apart from a dip test? No excess smoke, different sort of smell etc?
not that ive noticed.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by glensport
you'l only get caught if u are stupid! fill up behind closed doors and dont tell no-one, doesnt smoke any worse than the white stuff unless its contaminated...... works a treat mate
so you dont advise advertising the fact on an internet forum then?
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i have first hand experiance of the police and customs tugging me for a check and a dip, the bastards were near a car auction i was going past and i was in a hurry going somewhere so i did a crafty u turn and thought they didn't see me, next thing i know i'm the subject of a apb and on the run in their eyes,anyway i get stopped and asked quite politely to return just for a dip check which i agreed to do, soon as i get their the fucker pisses off and leaves me with a thicko from customs and a copper i wouldn't of pissed on if he self combusted in front of me. they checked everything twice and kept commenting that the tax was up in 2 days like i was lucky or somthing, i pointed out what the first copper said and i got the verbal shit spouted at me. the customs looked at my diesel and it was a really bright green and the old bill was asking more questions like can we do me,i said if it aint red theres no problem then.
so then the copper gave me a producer and says i'm lucky

a mate of mine who got done for smoking red got a 500 quid fine and if not paid there and then the car was going to get lifted. he paid up and after a load of questions and a producer got told to clear off.

about red being smokey is a myth imo, a mate who runs brand new tractors that cost 60 grand plus vat uses it all the time and it doesn't fuck them up or sound or look any differant to normal derv.
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slim to no chance of gettin caught, money saved far outweighs the risk, keep away from sea ports and agricultural events if poss, these are the most common places I've heard people gettin caught
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another thing if someone reports you to customs and they lie in wait for you your going to get done, my mate who has a petrol station is supposed to take registrations down of the customers buying the red,i wonder what they use the reg numbers for ??? it wouldn't be for sticking into a anpr would it ?????
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defo a myth about smoking worse
doesn't run or smoke any differant
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
another thing if someone reports you to customs and they lie in wait for you your going to get done, my mate who has a petrol station is supposed to take registrations down of the customers buying the red,i wonder what they use the reg numbers for ??? it wouldn't be for sticking into a anpr would it ?????
just make sure you borrow some one elses van when you buy it. how much is it to buy legitimately? its Ł1 a gallon from building sites.
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fuzzy mate would you let someone borrow your car or van to buy somthing that could get yourself tugged
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0.61p Litre, here

But you can get it cheaper
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mate of mine builds golf courses, so lots of heavy plant when there starting a fresh, he has 40 litre plastic drums of it they use, he has 6 he will drop of in my garage, he drives a petrol and owes me a favour
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Just use it........

Says the man who has just bought a Diesel
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I don't know if its true or not, but I heard if they really wanted to fuck you, they can charge you duty for all the miles on the clock, which @ 100k+ miles will be a monumental fine.
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Originally Posted by bigchez
I don't know if its true or not, but I heard if they really wanted to fuck you, they can charge you duty for all the miles on the clock, which @ 100k+ miles will be a monumental fine.
i've heard this before too... but not sure if there is any truth behind it.
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
fuzzy mate would you let someone borrow your car or van to buy somthing that could get yourself tugged
i didnt say you had to tell them
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
another thing if someone reports you to customs and they lie in wait for you your going to get done, my mate who has a petrol station is supposed to take registrations down of the customers buying the red,i wonder what they use the reg numbers for ??? it wouldn't be for sticking into a anpr would it ?????

turn up in a petrol/company car.
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i've heard people get it for 50p a litre .mix it 50/50 with used cooking oil,then your doing well,and saving the planet too fuck gordon!
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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we ran a 3220 fastrack,and artics with cherry for years.two tanks my friend specialy fabricated and a direct feed with seperate hidden filters............then the bastards can dip till they get dermotitas.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Fuck it, just do it...


Next week - " I got caught using red diesel, whats the worse thats going to happen"
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