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what headgasket would you use on a ecos(small turbo) upto 400 bhp?????

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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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as above?????
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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The oe one.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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can you use a escort 1 on a 3 door
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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can you use a escort 1 on a 3 door
Would of thought so as I've not seen a 3dr one specified on any adverts for head gaskets. I don't think their model specific.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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can you use a escort 1 on a 3 door
Sure can m8.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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The ST headgasket is the better of the standard ones AFAIK

so a new one of these with a new set of bolts, seems a good way to go
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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on 400hp imo i'd run a WRC one, i have been running 400hp (ST) for last year and my h/g needs changing now i'm going wrc item...
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ok mate
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wrc is the best one to use but ! you need your head and block perfectly flat !!
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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ok how can u check the block is flat what is the best way of doin this ???
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by martinembleton
ok how can u check the block is flat what is the best way of doin this ???
really the only way to do it properly is skim the head and face the block !
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
really the only way to do it properly is skim the head and face the block !
my experience of this in repect of YB heads is limited to having listened to the views of those who have done it before and then having had the head and the block skimmed to ensure good results. i was fortunate in having the engine out in both cases.

HOWEVER..

many pro's recommend the WRC gasket over the cometic one but pro's WOULD cos they can sell you them, and if they fitted the (cheaper) cometic one for you and you had a problem then you'd blame them for fitting a cheaper gasket, whereas if the WRC one failed they'd find a different excuse.

I know of 2 respected tuners who frequent this board who have not had any problems with cometic gaskets (neither have i either) and they would say that the typically disgruntled cometic users had been looking to save money so might not have had the head or block (or either) skimmed, on the assumption that it was ok, but then suffered failure cos it wasn't!

someone with the funds to use an expensive WRC one might also have had the whole engine stripped and rebuilt and deemed the cost of the extra for the gasket to be justified in this light. after use on the engine with repeated heating/ cooling cycles and then subsequent dismantling, the most likely component to require refacing is the head.

if you need to check the block because the engine is still in the car proceed as follows:

clean the top of the block with 120ish wet and dry ensuring no crap gets into the bores and wipe the surface with thinners / degreaser.

go to RS components or elsewhere and buy a pack of shim stock. use the thinnest - usually about 1 thou and stick a piece on each end of the block.

cover the head face with engineers blue and sit it on a strip of shim at each end and see if the blue shows on the block face. if it does then take the engine out and skim the block to fit cometic, or try the std gasket! if it does not touch you're ok.

you can also do this with standard kitchin ally foil which is usually under 1 thou thick. if the blue does not touch with this then the head is perfect.

alternatively, get a piece of standard photocopier paper 80gsm. this is usually about 2-3 thou thick uncompressed but when you soak it in water it will compress to less under the weight of the head.

Note: only the best engineering shops can machine a head to within half a thou despite what they tell you.

if the block is fine then definately use cometic - if not then maybe the std one will last but i've no experience of one of them lasting they've always failed on me!
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WRC ones are now not a lot dearer than cometic
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
WRC ones are now not a lot dearer than cometic

but is that coz they a r a shit cheap copy???
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by martinembleton
but is that coz they a r a shit cheap copy???
No, its cause they are now priced sensibley rather than having a ridiculously high pricetag despite having no justification of it in terms of material or production cost, they were just MASSIVE profit makers.
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