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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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First, sorry for my crapy English!

I bought a 4-layer steel head gasket from England.
I am unfortunately a bit unsure about the quality of this. I ask you here if you can see if you recognize it, or may speak on the quality, then it is from your home country.
I would be very grateful if you would help me with this, then it will sit in a Sierra Cosworth 4x4 -91 with about 500hp.

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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I guess the name is Ajusa FD6809000 ?

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www.ajusa.com seem to be the company. There's a head gasket of that model on a Russian website I found on Google, http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...n%26safe%3Doff Which says it's an Ajusa head gasket.

Other than that, never heard of them.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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TurboShed-> Thanks for the help! Can't find any info of those sites :/

Here are some pics om the gasket:



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looks like a mountune gasket
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
looks like a mountune gasket
Any info about that? Site?

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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its the gasket most big power cars use, very reliable.

most cossie tuners sell them including matt lewis

around Ł200 normally

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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
its the gasket most big power cars use, very reliable.

most cossie tuners sell them including matt lewis

around Ł200 normally
Hello!

Interesting! Is there any indication on Mountune gasket?
The only text that is on my gasket is: "AJUSA 178 TOP"

Can I trust this one, or should I use a GrA?

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you will have to ask someone who has a wrc mountune gasket to see if they have the same markings on them, they are probably made by a sub contracted company for mountune.

if it is a mountune gasket, it is the one to use!
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also looks like a 4 layer cometic but i have a cometic one sitting here in front of me and it has no markings like that on it (or on its packet).
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Originally Posted by PGT
also looks like a 4 layer cometic but i have a cometic one sitting here in front of me and it has no markings like that on it (or on its packet).
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Can you take som pictures of your gasket so I can look at yours?

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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
you will have to ask someone who has a wrc mountune gasket to see if they have the same markings on them, they are probably made by a sub contracted company for mountune.

if it is a mountune gasket, it is the one to use!
Ok. If you get a shot at something special place in the gasket, do you can tell me if there is a Mountune gasket or not?
It had feelt good to know if there is at good gasket or not, so I dont need to worry about it anymore.

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NOT the real deal Ajusa do not make the WRC Headgsket!!
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Originally Posted by Matt Lewis
NOT the real deal Ajusa do not make the WRC Headgsket!!
Ok, but is this gasket better than GrA gasket?

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probably not then, i know the cometic copies of the wrc gasket are shit!.
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Ajusa, can they might buy in Mountune gaskets and put his own name on them?
Their name can been writen on the gasket afterwards? Especially if they look exactly same?

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i doubt it.
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
probably not then, i know the cometic copies of the wrc gasket are shit!.
How do you know they are shit?
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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Hello again!

I had a friend here for a little while ago. He has bought a 'real' WRC 4-layer steel gasket, and we compare my and his and we can not find any difference at all! Everything is the same, layout and thickness.

I still believe that Ajusa set its own name on the gaskets they buy, and which they then sell as 'real' WRC gaskets. Right?

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If you have the two side by side, and can't tell the difference, I'd be happy with that
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Mountune dont make them
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its not jsut what they look like though is it....

what materials are used to make it? they mau not be the same
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Originally Posted by Matt Lewis
Mountune dont make them
"Cosworth Parts Specialist"
Give me som answers then

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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
its not jsut what they look like though is it....

what materials are used to make it? they mau not be the same
It is often able to identify materials, I am not a fool

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Originally Posted by MalZon
"Cosworth Parts Specialist"
Give me som answers then

Regards/Jonas
Already have, they are not the same Ajusa do not make the WRC Headgsaket
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Originally Posted by Matt Lewis
Already have, they are not the same Ajusa do not make the WRC Headgsaket
Hello!

Ok ok! But do I dare to use it then? Seriously

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Originally Posted by MalZon
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Ok ok! But do I dare to use it then? Seriously

Regards/Jonas

personally i wouldnt; imagine putting it all together only to find out the gasket fails straight away

for the price of a genuine gasket i know what i would do - especially in a 500hp engine
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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personally i wouldnt; imagine putting it all together only to find out the gasket fails straight away

for the price of a genuine gasket i know what i would do - especially in a 500hp engine
Well, no one has come up with something good reasons not to use the seal, only that Ajusa do not produce them?

I personally do not think Ajusa is shit, but I want to hear others views and experiences.

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Originally Posted by MalZon
Well, no one has come up with something good reasons not to use the seal, only that Ajusa do not produce them?

I personally do not think Ajusa is shit, but I want to hear others views and experiences.

Regards/Jonas
i think you've answered your own question then go ahead and use it
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nothing wrong with a cometic multilayer gasket
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i have heard of and know cars that had cometic gaskets fail, which is why i wouldnt use one, not worth the risk imo when the wrc one is now Ł180
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
i have heard of and know cars that had cometic gaskets fail, which is why i wouldnt use one, not worth the risk imo when the wrc one is now Ł180
180Ł? WRC gasket? I bought my for 140Ł.

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And a head gasket failing causes what? It's not a big deal.
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no its not a big deal, but why have an issue when it can be avoided?

if i had the choice i would rather not,replace cam belt, head gasket, head skim, ancillary gaskets, etc
just for the sake of using a better quality gasket to start with

im sure many peeps use the cometic without issue, but i chose not to use one because of the stories i heard

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My opinion on the head gasket thing is that cometic and wrc are just as good as each other IF they are clamped down well enough.. i believe that most heads lift too much but with the wrc having 4 layers it disguises the fault.

Just my opinion.

I have always run cometic and will continue too.
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im on my third cometic with no issues james

and never replaced 1 due to gasketfailure mate
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I got lite info for me now abaout Ajusa gasket. I can't use it on my engine. I got O-ring round the cylinders sĺ i can only use Group A gasket.. :/

Well, se how it goes

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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
no its not a big deal, but why have an issue when it can be avoided?

if i had the choice i would rather not,replace cam belt, head gasket, head skim, ancillary gaskets, etc
just for the sake of using a better quality gasket to start with

im sure many peeps use the cometic without issue, but i chose not to use one because of the stories i heard
Ive had a cometic gasket and it weeped oil from the back of the engine, stuck a wrc one on, straight swap and its been fine ever since, i was told at the time by the guy that built my engine that the cometic ones leaked on occasion ????? but this was when the cometic gaskets had just become popular, they are better now i beleive, but i would stick with wrc
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
no its not a big deal, but why have an issue when it can be avoided?

if i had the choice i would rather not,replace cam belt, head gasket, head skim, ancillary gaskets, etc
just for the sake of using a better quality gasket to start with

im sure many peeps use the cometic without issue, but i chose not to use one because of the stories i heard
Ah ok yeah I forgot about the head skim
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Originally Posted by MalZon
I got lite info for me now abaout Ajusa gasket. I can't use it on my engine. I got O-ring round the cylinders sĺ i can only use Group A gasket.. :/

Well, se how it goes

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But I don't understand, why are you didn't put Ajusa gasket?
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