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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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What are these pads like ?

Thinking of putting these in the rear of my dads mini currently runnning 205bhp but will be around 240 hopefully soon

Will these pads be ok ?
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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Should be fine, they squeel on some applications though. It's a road pad really with limited track-day capability. I use them on my Impreza company car and had no problems with them yet, even though it does not have the best brakes as standard.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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BRILLIANT pads!!!! ive never had any trouble with these on or off the track
(200bhp capri with standard non vented bottle top sized brakes)
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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I know much better ones but not in this price range. EBC products are actually quite cheap - at least where I am.
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im kind of limited on what pads are for sale for the mini cooper 's' latest model
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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I use them on my RS4 and they work really nice, even from cold.

I does have 360mm discs and 8 pot Brembo's though which help!
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by polly_x
I use them on my RS4 and they work really nice, even from cold.
bloody hell, not exactly a slow car either, i think on that note ill try a set
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Originally Posted by polly_x
I use them on my RS4 and they work really nice, even from cold.

I does have 360mm discs and 8 pot Brembo's though which help!
mini has an AP 330mm with 4 pots up front
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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glad people say they are ok,i am waiting for mine to be delivered.ordered disks and pads monday.i hope they turn up soon otherwise i cant do the blackpool thing on sunday .got to change a caliper,s/rack boots and antirollbar bushes aswel and i am busy as !!
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Originally Posted by rax2wdrax
glad people say they are ok,i am waiting for mine to be delivered.ordered disks and pads monday.i hope they turn up soon otherwise i cant do the blackpool thing on sunday .got to change a caliper,s/rack boots and antirollbar bushes aswel and i am busy as !!
Fingers cross mate

I get next delivery so ill be ok
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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I put EBC Red Stuff on a MY00 impreza turbo. Brilliant improvement over standard especially from cold!

Best recommendation has to be from above on an RS4 though as it's gotta be almost double the power and 40%more weight?
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Originally Posted by Paddy
I put EBC Red Stuff on a MY00 impreza turbo. Brilliant improvement over standard especially from cold!

Best recommendation has to be from above on an RS4 though as it's gotta be almost double the power and 40%more weight?
exactly my thinking mate
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MAD EVO 4
exactly my thinking mate
I got mine from Euro Car Parts in Aldershot mate, might be worth giving them a call - 01252 331448 - as they weren't expensive iirc! [And you're only up the road ]
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Excellent pad, but people start then banging on about others!
I used these before switching to Yellowstuff, which are even more awsome, but just need a very slight amount of warm to work best but still plenty useable.
The redstuff I found a bit dusty, but very progressive, no noise even though I took off the anti rattle shim on the back(always do), as said work right away from cold, last a long time too, but dust is black so have to clean wheels more often than I like, if you're a heavy braker!!
I can get ferrodo free, but buy ebc that I use.
The ebc red and yellow are also Police approved for thier pursuit cars, few are.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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Excellent pad, but people start then banging on about others!
I used these before switching to Yellowstuff, which are even more awsome, but just need a very slight amount of warm to work best but still plenty useable.
The redstuff I found a bit dusty, but very progressive, no noise even though I took off the anti rattle shim on the back(always do), as said work right away from cold, last a long time too, but dust is black so have to clean wheels more often than I like, if you're a heavy braker!!
I can get ferrodo free, but buy ebc that I use.
The ebc red and yellow are also Police approved for thier pursuit cars, few are.
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what are the yellow stuff pads like and what are the dust levels like ?
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:37 AM
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Ive got the red stuff in my ap 330mm on the front of my saff and they are awsome...never had any issue's with them even when hammering it.....
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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Yellowstuff have even more fade resistance, dust levels are just the same but, the dust is like transluscent in colour so doesn't look anywhere near as dirty.
I was cleaning my wheels about every week with reds but still worth it, you won't go wrong with either pad, yellows feel more "solid", odd I know but they have slightly and is only slightly less feedback than reds, and do take a 2 or 3 goes of normal stopping to do thier best, but even thier worst is awsome, was going to try blue next, but not road legal!!
I only have std discs sizes at the mo(2wd sapph), make sure you put these all round, as there was 2 days between doing my ones front + rear, and unbalanced the car nicely!!
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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got yellows front and rear in the beemer and have had no problems at all.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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had them on the cossy, good pads.
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got reds all round my cos stops wicked from 170
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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I found them shite....

LOL must be me

Mintex 1144 or 1155s
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexF
I found them shite....

LOL must be me

Mintex 1144 or 1155s
me 2 sh!t from cold on my track car!
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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just fit ds2500 or ds3000 and forget about them
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Tabs always slags off the Ferodo stuff.

BUT.. you'll find if you did a poll that more people would recommend Ferodo DS2500 & 3000 over EBC equipment i'm sure.
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Originally Posted by Dave Ridge
Tabs always slags off the Ferodo stuff.

BUT.. you'll find if you did a poll that more people would recommend Ferodo DS2500 & 3000 over EBC equipment i'm sure.


who gives a monkeys what he thinks ???

buy the best and forget
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fords wrc car's run ds3000
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And get's it's ass kicked by Citroen equipped with Carbone Lorraine pads
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Mintex or Ferrodo for me. If a company can release something as shit as the greenstuff stuff I tried it doesnt deserve my hard earned cash.

Used both mintex 11440 and Ferrodo ds2500 and would have no hesitation in using again.
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So wrc car running a certain pad is a good indication of the best pads for the road then ?, it is to do with SPONSORSHIP, ever thought about that.
A opinion was asked for, and it was given based on my experience, and I have used all the pads mentioned here, I get ferrodo FREE if I want, but BUY ebc, do you know why ?
I found the ferrodo had NO feel whatsoever, took ages to get hot and working and then faded just as quick, and thius was on a 2.0l auto sierra, I gave them away as I did the MINTEX, which I gave to retro al FOC, as that is how I get them.
Just because it is an opinion does not make it wrong or right, but it IS an ANSWER to the question asked.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
trust me I don't lose sleep over others opinions of me, it's hilarious
Of course you dont, thats why you replied again after already giving your opinion
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of course the WRC teams run crap pads, because lets be honest they hardly brake anyhow so done need super sharp brakes
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Mintex and Ferodo do not do a rear pad for the new mini cooper 's' turbo

otherwise i would fit ferodo ds2500 to match the fronts
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Originally Posted by MAD EVO 4
Mintex and Ferodo do not do a rear pad for the new mini cooper 's' turbo

otherwise i would fit ferodo ds2500 to match the fronts
If thats the case I'd leave the standard rear pads in.
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Originally Posted by Drunken Master
If thats the case I'd leave the standard rear pads in.
oh really

the standard pads arent that great, just thought that better rear pads would be better due to the front up grade
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Luckily you dont need uprated pads for the back
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Originally Posted by AlexF
Luckily you dont need uprated pads for the back
can you explain why Alex mate please
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the combo i keep coming back to are reds on the front and greens on the rear. unmatched performance so far in my old touring.
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Originally Posted by MAD EVO 4
can you explain why Alex mate please
Probably the rears are overbraked as standard and the rear weights next to nothing?
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexF
I found them shite....

LOL must be me

Mintex 1144 or 1155s

I found them shite too - But then i had then about 5 years ago, maybe they have changed since?

Also i had 1144's and 1155's on my RS 2000 and found them terrible pads, faded badly after little abuse and just didn't give a good feel.

Best pads i've had for fast road are DS 2500
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