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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Whats the lightest you think you could get a 2wd saph down to.
I mean carbon fibre boot,bonnet,plastic side windows.Bear minimum
but still road legal?
would it be possible to lose 100-150 kg?

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Yeah i would think so. It would be very stripped though, no interior, no sound deadening, carbon everything, doors bonnet, boot, roof....
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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You could easily lose 75kg, but another 75kg will be very difficult.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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this might sound silly but if thought about this a few times, if you were going completely track spec, i would guess you would put in a fairly good cage, could you then remove the back doors and just weld in some sheet in place with polly panels for the windows?? that way you would lose the weight of two doors and the cage would keep the rigidity??
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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and i suppose the passenger door aswell if you wanted to take it to extremes
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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just cut the doors out, and leave locking mech in.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Would send body to be acid dipped to lose all sound deadining.
Yes charlie, cut as much of doors out
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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what do they weigh factory?
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AJC
what do they weigh factory?
My Sapphire with half a tank of fuel, but spare wheel removed, weighed 1275kg - this was heavily modified with different (read larger / heavier) wheels, brakes, tyres, intercooler etc).

JB has got his down to 1175kg with the carbon parts mentioned and stripping out the doors.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Basically as Mike says, but after fittin the boot & loosin a couple lil bits it weighs 1165kg wit roughly half tank fuel.

Got the roof bein done as we speak & got plenty of other things we can loose weight from. The aim is to get it down to 1100kg with half tank !! Hopefully !! lol

Still wanna keep a few creature comforts tho !! lol

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jb fletch
Basically as Mike says, but after fittin the boot & loosin a couple lil bits it weighs 1165kg wit roughly half tank fuel.

Got the roof bein done as we speak & got plenty of other things we can loose weight from. The aim is to get it down to 1100kg with half tank !! Hopefully !! lol

Still wanna keep a few creature comforts tho !! lol

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so when are the carbon doors, wings and rear quarters being done
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Are your bumper stripped out or carbon? cut the foam from my front bumper to make it lighter to get on a off when it goes on the trailer.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
so when are the carbon doors, wings and rear quarters being done
Has been spoke about Not the rear 1/4's tho, thats jus silly !!

Originally Posted by robrs2
Are your bumper stripped out or carbon? cut the foam from my front bumper to make it lighter to get on a off when it goes on the trailer.
Front bumpers a lightweight fiberglass one & weighs f**k all !! Have dug out all the padding from the rear one tho !!

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Should be able to get it down to 950kg no probs.

My mates 3dr is 937kg with some fuel in. Still has a steel bonnet, doors and a stock rear bumper. Not to mention a jag diff!
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage19
Should be able to get it down to 950kg no probs.

My mates 3dr is 937kg with some fuel in. Still has a steel bonnet, doors and a stock rear bumper. Not to mention a jag diff!
Now that sounds cool !! Is it still a road car or pure track ??

As mine's still primearily a road car & still has leccy windows in front, leather , full dash, sounds etc !!

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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As with all things a lot would depend on how much your willings to spend as once you've attacked the shell its starts to get very expensive, you could loose a good 25kg by ditching the anvil in the front and using an alloy version of the block.

Using rally/race spec parts will also help reduce the weight, a TR30R turbo for example only weighs 12lbs but is rather expensive. WRC calipers are nice and light, magnesium wheels, diff casings etc also help to reduce weight. Areoquip have the startlite range and using silver wire instead of copper allows for a thinner lighter loom, but in all seriousness unless you have a race team budget it would probably be easier to just start with a lighter ford like a mk1 escort
After that
Find a set of magnesium wheels, some WRC calipers as these only weight around 2kgs instead of thetend to be 1kg lessll depened onAll depends on hows
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Is a road car but track prepped. 2 x bucket seats and a dash and that is it.

Has plastic windows, FG tailgate, FG front bumper.

Col is 64kg so 1001 kg all up with driver!
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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JB does yours still have all the glass in? Also has a cage doesnt it?
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Nash,

Mine does still have all glass windows & a cage (but dont mention the cage to Chip ).

Will be gettin poly windows soon "ish", gotta sort engine & mappin first, then roof !!

I know there's more weight to be saved, I jus gotta get the time to hop on it !!

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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cunting fucking death cage, worst mod ever
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by graeme
Whats the lightest you think you could get a 2wd saph down to.
I mean carbon fibre boot,bonnet,plastic side windows.Bear minimum
but still road legal?
would it be possible to lose 100-150 kg?

Thanks
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Absolute piece of piss to lose that much.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jb fletch
Nash,

Mine does still have all glass windows & a cage (but dont mention the cage to Chip ).

Will be gettin poly windows soon "ish", gotta sort engine & mappin first, then roof !!

I know there's more weight to be saved, I jus gotta get the time to hop on it !!

jb
Cool, the rear screen and all the glass will weigh quite a bit aswell as the sun roof. I had heard the cage was erm................... interesting if you are sat in the passenger seat.

I was just interested to know how much it weighed while still having glass and a cage ontop tbh bud.

Will be interested to see how light it is once you have done all the other mods.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Absolute piece of piss to lose that much.
The rear seats and all the belts etc that go with them are over 50kg's.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nash
The rear seats and all the belts etc that go with them are over 50kg's.
I bet the windows are more than that when you include the mechanisms


150kg is not a lot to lose from a car, should be easy with the sort of mods mentioned.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
cunting fucking death cage, worst mod ever
See, told ya !!

Dont worry chip, it will be "addressed" by the time you next get in the car !!



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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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My Sapph weighs 1118kgs with about five litres of fuel in it. But I'm about to go lighter wheels, removal of ABS, removal of brake servo. So it will end up around 1100kgs.

Unfortunately I'm a fat bastard so with me the car weighs 1218kgs!

Charlie
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