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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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me and my mate are looking at going joint into a track car, and weve found an ever popular 205 gti for sale already part prepped for track, not sure on the spec as my mate has rang it, but going seeing it tomoz, and as they are ever popular on here,

what do people look for on these? apparently the rear arch is corroded and he reckons it will need a couple of patches of welding, its not road legal at the min, but apparently can be put back with minimum of fuss.

not sure if its a sunroof model or not.. its an 88 car!

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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very popular with the rally lot aswell! might be worth checking the underside for knocks and bumps...
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Apart from the usual things to check when buying a car here are some 205 GTi specific things to check;

The floor pan in the boot rusts away as this area wasn't factory undersealed.
The arches tend to rot away under the plastic wheel arch trims due to dirt accumulating there.
There is a steel coolant pipe bolted to the inner O/S wing down near the crank pulley that is crimped into a rectangular section that rots away too.
There shouldn't be any knocks from the suspension, check the rear tyres for scrubbing as this most probably is from a bent rear beam (they can be straightened but it's easier to buy a 2nd hand beam).
A sloppy gear lever is probably from one of the linkage ball joints ovalling the hole through which it passes in the front subframe (either get the hole drilled larger and fit a top hat spacer or take the frame off and get it welded).
Rear beam mounting bushes split cause the beam to move (check this by driving slowly forwards and backwards past an observer and yank the hand brake on and see if the rear wheel moves backwards or forwards relative to the arch).
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sailorbob
Apart from the usual things to check when buying a car here are some 205 GTi specific things to check;

The floor pan in the boot rusts away as this area wasn't factory undersealed.
The arches tend to rot away under the plastic wheel arch trims due to dirt accumulating there.
There is a steel coolant pipe bolted to the inner O/S wing down near the crank pulley that is crimped into a rectangular section that rots away too.
There shouldn't be any knocks from the suspension, check the rear tyres for scrubbing as this most probably is from a bent rear beam (they can be straightened but it's easier to buy a 2nd hand beam).
A sloppy gear lever is probably from one of the linkage ball joints ovalling the hole through which it passes in the front subframe (either get the hole drilled larger and fit a top hat spacer or take the frame off and get it welded).
Rear beam mounting bushes split cause the beam to move (check this by driving slowly forwards and backwards past an observer and yank the hand brake on and see if the rear wheel moves backwards or forwards relative to the arch).

brilliant cheers, also i used to use a 205 forum that was brilliant, and now for the life of me cant remember it!

is it gti-drivers.co.uk or something/?

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http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php

there shouldn't be any rust really tey have galvanised shells, if there rust, it's either a stone chip, or previous damage

whats the spec of the car?

link?
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I think they are AWESOME cars but pretty expensive compared with other newer and maybe more reliable stuff?

have you thought about a Clio 172 mate?
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http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php

there shouldn't be any rust really tey have galvanised shells, if there rust, it's either a stone chip, or previous damage

whats the spec of the car?

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its not on ebay or internet as far as im aware, more word of mouth, not sure on the spec will find out later tonight!
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I think they are AWESOME cars but pretty expensive compared with other newer and maybe more reliable stuff?

have you thought about a Clio 172 mate?
my friend who i will be sharing this with is well into his clios and recently sold a 53 reg 172, this 205 has purely come along by chance, and for the price that the guy is asking it might be silly to not buy it as i think we could break it for more than it would cost to buy!
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Originally Posted by CraigoScott
my friend who i will be sharing this with is well into his clios and recently sold a 53 reg 172, this 205 has purely come along by chance, and for the price that the guy is asking it might be silly to not buy it as i think we could break it for more than it would cost to buy!

if breaking let me know,

i know someone who is building one, and he might need some parts
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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check rear wheels dont rub on the inside of the arch 99% its the radius arms if they do as spiky said no rust its unusual if there is any.and there fuckin great i love mine
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checked for seized rear beam too
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Originally Posted by Spiky
checked for seized rear beam too
any how would we do that?

apparently it has rust on the rear arch! can you tell im gettin drip fed info! lol
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Originally Posted by CraigoScott
any how would we do that?

apparently it has rust on the rear arch! can you tell im gettin drip fed info! lol

well stand in the back and see if you have equal movement

or jack it up and see if the rear wheels move ok, with the help of a wheel brace

VERY common for them to seize
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
well stand in the back and see if you have equal movement

or jack it up and see if the rear wheels move ok, with the help of a wheel brace

VERY common for them to seize
thank you sir! move news just in, the one we are looking at is white! haha, i sound like a right cunt not knowing any spec!
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could always buy mine for Ł1k
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CraigoScott
thank you sir! move news just in, the one we are looking at is white! haha, i sound like a right cunt not knowing any spec!

if it's white it must be a fast one

all white cars are FAST
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SapphyMike
could always buy mine for Ł1k
the one we are going to see is a lot less than that! were only looking at it cos its soo cheap, dont kno if the guy knows what hes got, or it may turn out to be a snotter!

and yes, white ones are the fastest
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CraigoScott
the one we are going to see is a lot less than that! were only looking at it cos its soo cheap, dont kno if the guy knows what hes got, or it may turn out to be a snotter!

and yes, white ones are the fastest
does it have a cage n bucket seats, koni shockers, uprated brakes etc?

if so, then it sounds a bargain
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sapphy mike, send me a spec i have a guy that is looking for a track car
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Originally Posted by SapphyMike
does it have a cage n bucket seats, koni shockers, uprated brakes etc?

if so, then it sounds a bargain
afaik it has buckets, stripped out, uprated supsension, and some engine work includin port + polish,

i wasnt being rude then mate, sorry if it came across that way, its just we werent really on the serious hunt for a car until this one came along!

anyway its most likely a snotter so i may be coming to you anyway! :d
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sorry for the thread hijack but
i've got a 89 black 1.9 track car
just find it a it to slow, any cheap wee jobs worth doing to make differance?
its a bit tail happy on the bends, any idea on a common problem?
rear bushes aer fine and its not siezed, it it at standard height and i've not been to shy with the speed into the corners so could it just be me trying to hard?
also if anybody local wants to buy it its available for 400, stripped out with buckets
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Group A (pmsl) rear beam kit might help.

Consists of solid mounts and hard plastic poly bush type ones.
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Originally Posted by westus1
sorry for the thread hijack but
i've got a 89 black 1.9 track car
just find it a it to slow, any cheap wee jobs worth doing to make differance?
its a bit tail happy on the bends, any idea on a common problem?
rear bushes aer fine and its not siezed, it it at standard height and i've not been to shy with the speed into the corners so could it just be me trying to hard?
also if anybody local wants to buy it its available for 400, stripped out with buckets

I know someone that might take it.

They are all tail happy that why they are so much fun!

Mine just slides for fun in the wet!
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pictures?

if you want more power just fir a gti6 engine
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Originally Posted by Spiky
pictures?

if you want more power just fir a gti6 engine
building 2 escort cossy track cars at the moment(1 with the old reyland gumball engine)
the other is an ex ag car
so this was just to play with till they're ready so dont want any hassle realy
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Info about the car is here

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=tab%3DSelling

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just been and looked at the one i was on about, felt nice and solid, no knocks from suspension, slight wear on outside of rear tyres, no oil leaks/smoke, engine picked up well, standard brakes but it was deffo lowered, couldnt see any markings on the shocks/springs, but the springs were red :P passenger rear arch fooked however, big hole, but easily welded imo! 5 1.6 gti wheels with decent crap tyres lol, indicators dont work, but its not road legal!

have pictures will post up later

have left a deposit and should be picking it up in a couple of weeks...
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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heres some pics:













what do we think? first thing i want to do is get rid of the gay stickers! :P
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first thing you need to check before going out on track, is what the hell the harness are connected too

if they are just bolt to the boot floor. REMOVE them and bolt to seat belt ancher points
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Originally Posted by Spiky
first thing you need to check before going out on track, is what the hell the harness are connected too

if they are just bolt to the boot floor. REMOVE them and bolt to seat belt ancher points
yes will be going through the car before it goes anywhere near a track!! spiky, do you kno anywhere cheapish to get body panels? not bothered if they are not originals, need at least a passenger rear arch and maybe some others!
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the black plastic arch? or the rear quarter?

205 forum will defo have the arch, as the rear quater any panel place should have them
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Originally Posted by Spiky
the black plastic arch? or the rear quarter?

205 forum will defo have the arch, as the rear quater any panel place should have them
rear quarter mate, will ring a couple today
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reg found! E716 OPR
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