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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Well my evo 8 steel engine has thrown a rod and has holes in the side of the block

and people say fords are unreliable LOL.....
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Shame , 2.3 stroker kit time then
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingy
Well my evo 8 steel engine has thrown a rod and has holes in the side of the block

and people say fords are unreliable LOL.....
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Sad news, what do the std rods look like?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Bad luck pal
Have you kept the mk2?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
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Sad news, what do the std rods look like?
No idea as mine are forged ones.... but it seems that they aint strong engines LOL...

Hard to say why it made holes in the block with out the strip down but it went with a bang

70-80mph in 4th.....and no real boost
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Still got the mk2 thank fook LOL

Evo makes the cosworth seem bomb proof by comparision
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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not nice to hear, gutted for ya, presume the engine wasn't standard (internally)

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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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odear...


i thought you had an 6 tho? 8 engine in a 6?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
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Sad news, what do the std rods look like?
Martin - when i pop down i'll bring you a standard Evo rod that i retrieved after someone misheard the advice of "your boost controller is set, you have no reason to touch it"

They are remarkably skinny - can instantly see why non MR/9 engines aren't safe over 350lb/ft.

Sorry to hear about your engine Steve
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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If it was standard internally then fair enough its not as tough as ppl think, but if its been rebuilt & not very well it will blow just like a cossie engine thats not been built well
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Its not a standard engine...

Forged bottom end...brand new evo 8 engine in a 6 LOL
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Thought all Evo's bar the FQ 400's and a select few that run uprated rods as Std were on thier piston/rod limit at about 380BHP?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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as per conversation,sorry to hear this Steve.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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What was the make of the con rod.

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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Thumbs down evo.s

i ran an evo 8 fq 300 for two years and 32,000 miles with no problems at all! not as modified as yours tho, it had a 3" system,uprated pump, w,r,c remap h,k,s blow off and mushroom filter! reguraly seen wrong side of 170, (on the clocks anyway) without as much as a squeak! p,s,,,, car had also done 22,000 miles when i bought it! gutted for ya tho matey
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
What was the make of the con rod.

Mark
Funny enough it doesnt say on the reciept so I will ask that question.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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Sorry to hear this Dingy, but no, Evos are not unreliable. YOUR Evo is.

Mine has done 14000 miles this year, as in 14 thousand. Almost entirely to track days and around tracks, plus 3 Ring trips. In just under a year.

I've had to fit a new Track rod end. That is is it. Ł25 it cost me.

It has regular oil services and then gets driven like I stole it with no drama at all.

You've been very unlucky with yours, which is a shame as I'm sure you would have enjoyed the car more if it had worked more often more of the time.


Did you or the previous owner have any form of warranty with whoever built up the forged engine your car runs? Rods should deffo not be exiting the block
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Si am going to strip it and find out...

Evo's are deffo unreliable LOL
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Had my Evo for 3.5 years running Autronic - never had a single problem, mind you it was mapped by Mark 'The Autronic God' Shead so it was running like a dream
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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its always when you not hurting them the let go

sorry to hear it but atleast you can say your cosworth is more reliable than an evo lol
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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what spec is yours si?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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freak occurance..
my mates evo 8 ran 360 bhp on standard rods and was totally trouble free... now runs 440 on standard pistons and uprated rods..
only gets used on track and the thing has been faultless.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingy
Si am going to strip it and find out...
Good man, then piece it back together bigger and better / faster!

I really need to look at forging mine (with a bit of a Stroker too) soon, as although mine has worked well so far I know it won't last forever and as per most people on here, I WANT MORE POWER!

Originally Posted by baba
what spec is yours si?

Mine is mild, 320 bhp as I'm only running a fuel pump, spark plugs, 3" exhaust and no cat with Ecutek remap. The cams (which are a mild spec in the 260 models) and the small ish (9.8) exhaust housing limit what I can do with it. 350 would be max out of my current spec, but I'm happy enough with the go go at the mo.

I've read reports of standard rods letting go at 300 bhp and people running FP Green turbos at 450 bhp on standard rods with no problems. Really seems hit and miss, but most Evos seem to be happy at 350 bhp.

After forging and stroking, Evos seem to breeze 500, 600 and 700+bhp.

Hmmm 700 bhp
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Unlucky Dingy!
Have'nt really had any big issues with mine in 3years of ownership.
Couple of clutches a box and a steering rack - warranty sorted everything bar the clutches.

Si 700 in an Evo's a riot especially with a bang bang box
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sorry to read this dingy

but i have to say mines been fine with plenty of hard driving.

would like to know what caused it to throw a rod
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingy

Evo's are deffo unreliable LOL
Unlucky that ur engine let go. But I really don't believe that comment above.

Any car that throws a modified rod off boost at 70-80mph isn't unreliable. It is a shit build or shit parts. Can't blame Mitsu for that.

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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Evo's are not unreliable at all, I have NEVER had one that we have tuned die or even break down at all for that matter, not even a reported missfire in 8 years of tuning them. When modded right they are pretty bomb proof, which is of course one of the main reasons they they are so popular.

Normally the standard components are pushed past their already high limit, or they are replaced with sub-standard components. Not the cars fault in either scenario, just bad tuning in 99% of cases.

Yours ma well just be a case of bad luck, all marques have Cases of bad luck, but i feel its unlikely since you suggest the bottom ends been replaced, and its a part of the bottom end that just broke.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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Sadly for the people who are saying that they are reliable.

My own experience - they are the most unreliable car in the world LOL....so i will have to disagree based on my own experience.

I will find out why it failed....

Just so you know this car had a new engine build due to a previous engine failure...

Bottom end has been rebuillt and thats let go unless its dropped a valve and thats taken the bottom end out LOL....who knows...

All i know there is a hole in the engine that shouldn't be there...

Car is coming back home today - so i will start taking the engine out tonight and post some pics up as and when i get to that stage
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Originally Posted by Dingy
Sadly for the people who are saying that they are reliable.

My own experience - they are the most unreliable car in the world LOL....so i will have to disagree based on my own experience.
Thats one car though, not all of them.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
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Sad news, what do the std rods look like?
these are the internals from an Evo V which look the same as the Evo VI

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Think your wasting your time lads trying to explain to dingy that they are reliable he has made his mind up & totally ignoring the fact he has bought a lemmon with a shonky engine build..Sorry dingy but that is fact like it or not
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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Kev Atkins has just finished his second complete TA season with his MAD engine, 740bhp with no probs, so the engine is strong if built correctly, many aint.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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Carlo - don't tar me with the blinkered brush that you seem to have done.

In my experience my evo has been unreliable in many ways....i know standard cars will be reliable but am not talking about that am talking about my own experiences with a modified car.

Until i find the cause i cant comment....

My run of bad luck....

Radiator bust
Turbo Bust
ECU bust
engine bust
Done 400 miles in this car and the engine has done around 2400miles...

So I think its unreliable....

I am not comparing tuners or starting a war here am just posting my experience nothing more.....

when i put

Evo's are deffo unreliable LOL
It has a LOL after it and is meant very tongue in cheek.....but anyone who actually personally knows me would think that
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Hope you get it sorted steve!
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was this on a l8
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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L8 LOL...
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Fair enough steve but the title should be MY EVO IS UNRELIABLE
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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as posted on MLR all you ever do is moan moan moan

You bought a pup had no idea what your were buying, didn't research what your were buying and hey presto look whats happened

YOU CAN ONLY BLAME YOURSELF!!!

with all the money you now spent you could've quite easily bought an 8 MR modified or none modified and had a totally 100% reliable 320+ BHP or near as dammit 400BHP with a modified MR

Total Lack of Knowledge is the fault here and that means YOU!
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