Just seen thier article on it.

66% children born to teenage mums live in poverty
40% teenage mums leave school with no qualifications!

Surely for any potential teen mums the statistics speak for themselves!!!! plus the fact a free flat and benefits for life era has ended!!!

I know there are SOME teen mums who it works out good for but thats not the majority.

From what i can see, basic sex ed isnt the problem. People know about condoms and STDs yet still carry on with unprotected sex.

Why cant kids get it into thier thick skulls that the age of consent is 16 for a reason!!!! These teens age 13/14 saying all they want is a baby really cant have a fucking clue. hormones fucking live with them. Blokes are just the same with "shag everything" hormones similar ages. Is it really that hard to use your right hand???

Maybe they should consider the law has decided that you are too immature for sex and babys under 16. how about trusting the government!!!

So what can we do about it??

Is it just a side effect of our "no consequence" and "no respect" generation of children or is there some other real thing we can change to help solve the problem.

Would stricter prosecution of underage mums and people having underage sex add the "consequence" these children so badly need??? or is it too late???

Compulsory adoption of babys born to underage teens??? contorversial yes but could work both ways.

Compulsory pill for underage teens known to be sexually active??? again "human rights" people will shout but these are still children who the state is required to protect and educate (as the parents often arent!!!).

Compulsory baby training/parenting skills as part of a new home economics GCSE? a bit late for those 12-14 year old mums but hopefully such a syllabus could be worked into high school syllabus age 11 onwards with GCSE being final goal.

So whats your views on the solution???

 

make them get a job and pay for it. both of them. there was a copper on the radio the other day said the age of consent is to protect children from pervs not each other. so its ok for kids to shag each other get pregnant then live off every one else .

 

There was some sket speaking to me and my mates the other night who was 14, pregnant and 'think' she knows who the father is.

 

if you have kids under the age of 21 they you pay for them, no benifits until the child is 21, for both parents, plus compulory sterlisation

can't/won't name the father? no benifits for you till you hit 65

no free houses

a bit draconion but that's the way it would be in dojj's britain

 

Thats a good point!! what is the Child Support Agencys take on persuing underage dads for maintenance??? obviously they cant do it until 16 when they can earn/claim dole, BUT this raises an interesting question....... What is the legal age of financial resonsibiklity for raising children??? and if its 16 then do those dads become financially resposible when 16 for a decision they were not deemed responsible for age 14 or what ever (in same light crimes committed before age 10 dont suddenly get charged and prosecuted when the kid reaches age 10!!)

 

only problem with that dojj is that then youll have 100% poverty for teenage mums.

The government would never back a policy like that.

Plus its the babys that suffer. when have you seen a teen mum wearing cheapo asda clothes???? its always top brands or expensive "kappa" tracksuits and branded trainers!! Underage mummy and daddy always seem to have spare cash for tins of wifebeater and white powder to go up thier noses!!!

 

cut the benefits off, this wont stop them get ramped with spunk, but it will stop them thinking "f*ck it I'll keep my baby and get a free ride"

They will have to face the fact that THEY or their parents will be footing the bill.

I would also only give benefits for the first child, after that, the parent has to work at least part time to recieve benefits for a second child and only hafl then.

My sister and her fella have two kids, she is actually better of by 900 a month if she works four days rather than five as she then gets daycare paid for WTF - why isn't child care FREE to mums who work full time, get people to get into work and give something back.

 

Is the legal age for sex in the UK 16 ????? That seems to be a bit to young IMO. Over hear its a 18... not that makes an differnce mum teens are getting more common and some times it seems that it will and up as the rule and not the exception

 

I think MORE upfront open talks need to be held in school, and more information about where to go and what help is on offer and what the options and consequences are.

So many birds at my school thought : you couldn't preggers on the first time, or if you were standing up, or if you pulled out etc etc.

Sex ed was all clinical, and unless it has changed, then I think it should be far more realistic, talks on oral sex, masturbation, std's, pregnancy, benefit issues etc.

It will get even worse if kids just think they can get up the duff and get a free home, cash and no need to work, looking at the chav birds from the estates suggest this is what they can get.

 

Thats EXACTLY why the benefits system needs serious review.

 

Well i started at 12 and how many kids that age carry nodders?? you just want to nail it.

The problems isn't 100% with the teens, it's the same argument with adults claiming the jig for years and claiming for everything under the sun.

The jig should be used for thing and one thing only and that's for people who happen to lose their job and it should only be for a limited time (3 months) as that is long enough to find a new job.

Theirs always work it's just people are to lazy to go and pack boxes or do shitty jobs. They would change their minds if their money was cut off.

 

what age did you get sex ed though???? and did you give a fuck???

Thats quite young even for these days. I hadnt had my first wank until i 13

What would have helped you be more mature and responsible then???

 

i agree that the sex education isnt upto scratch, whilst at college i had to go into secondary schools to teach sex education to 14yr olds, i would honestly say 95% of them didnt know they could get pregnant the first time they had sex

 

first go was at about 14, was interuppted just as I got head deap - doh!!!

Actually did the deed at 16, BUT, many many birds in my years were shagging by 14, two girls were shagging at 11 with lads from the years above, not each other, and that was the two that mouthed off about it, most likely others!!!

By the forth years (14-15yrs) I would say of the 20% of the year were shagging. That is 15 - 16 years ago!!

 

me and the mrs both work and have to pay the full whack for nursery fee's
yet if she didn't work, the nursery fee's would be totaly waved
whassupwidat?!?!?!?!

if you don't go to work you can get osmeone else to look after your kids, but if you DO go to work you have to PAY someone else more than you earn to look after them

the worlds gone bonkers

 

Well i went on holiday when i was in the second year and i missed it so it's was only a 2 week topic and that was 16-17 years ago, to be completely honest i've always been lucky and nothing ever happened i have never used protection other than pertners on the pil. but if i were playing the field again i would without a shadow of doubt go protected everytime

 

by 1988 there were 5 prams in our dinner hall during the day

 

can you put a lottery ticket on for me please Brammers or were you just careful to get all partners checked??

 

Dojj, tell me about it with the child care thing. Kim (my sister) is a worker, hated being off for the 6 months, even she was shocked at the difference 4 days to 5 made. She would work 5 days no problem if they paid for care.

Another mate had a little boy and went back to work, she was 7 quid a week better off for working 5 days, than staying at home!!!! credit to her, she went back to work as she wants to better herself.

Another mate had her kid at 16, she is now 29, works 8 - 3pm, earns 30k a year, she has bought her own house and is a single mum,and is currently studying her degree in the evenings.

 

nothings gonna change. its just the way society is today. sadly just have to deal with the fact that one of your kids could get knocked up or knock someone else up. just hopefully ya kid has the sense to bag it

 

the problem with that diamonds is the benefits system will collapse if things keep going the way they are plus why the fuck should i pay for other peoples kids because of thier stupid behaviour!!

If they made the benefits harsh then it would deter them. unless your saying all kids are now stupid as well!!!

 

Simple, compulsory abortion if under 16 unless the parents sign a waiver taking on all financial responsibility until the child is 18

 

no just most of em