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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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looking at the 3100 kit, but what lead do i need to intergrate it with the stereo so no wires require cutting to install it?

cars a landrover defender 07 model this dash/ stereo


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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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ISO connector is used by parrots and is very common on most new cars iirc so should plug straight in.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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if not, you'll need a bit of chopping, but all the connections are there in the std box. no addons needed. infact IIRC the external speaker is an addon!
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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If the stereo doesnt have a conventional ISO plug on the back of it you need to buy yourself an adaptor. Somewhere like www.blueunplugged.com (or co.uk!!) are one of the cheapest places.

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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go on parrott website they have a section on there for if you need connectors for what cars and if your not sure they have a forum too. ive installed 3 parrot kits there easy to do and a excellent kit imo
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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often if you buy them from your mobile operator you'll get a voucher for free fitting too. Thats what i do on our work Orange business account. i've had 4 handsfree kits fitted sofar just need to blag another one for the MR2
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
if not, you'll need a bit of chopping, but all the connections are there in the std box. no addons needed. infact IIRC the external speaker is an addon!
no chopping of anykind, warrenty issues and my dad would have kittens

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If the stereo doesnt have a conventional ISO plug on the back of it you need to buy yourself an adaptor. Somewhere like www.blueunplugged.com (or co.uk!!) are one of the cheapest places.

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No idea and as its a chritmas present to my mum, she might suspect something if i drove 100mile to see her, and pulled her headunit out

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go on parrott website they have a section on there for if you need connectors for what cars and if your not sure they have a forum too. ive installed 3 parrot kits there easy to do and a excellent kit imo
1st thing i checked was their website and they only seem to show defender up to 2002, and i think 2007 onwards is when the dash changed and is very different
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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no chopping of anykind, warrenty issues and my dad would have kittens



No idea and as its a chritmas present to my mum, she might suspect something if i drove 100mile to see her, and pulled her headunit out



1st thing i checked was their website and they only seem to show defender up to 2002, and i think 2007 onwards is when the dash changed and is very different


Change isn't the word- shit thats different, looking though its standard din pins to get it out- but the rear of it might be very different- its actually VERY similar to a new Disco dash but you have to take most of the dash apart as the stereo's are screwed in.

You are unlikely to be able to chop into it as it will be can bus and no switched live- the Parrot kit needs a switched live to work.

Might have an external amp too- which again is a no no for a parrot.

Parrot do normally do the add ons to connect to none ISO stereos- ring them- the website might not be up to date.

If you are that bothered about your warrenty etc I would get this done by a proffesional.

Also looking at the dash it looks like someone without the neccesary skills OR balls would have a job of running the cable for the control box.

Personally if I was you I would walk away from doing that......

J
PS- I used to do this for a living....
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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thats a bugger, as allready have a kit, just after a conection lead part no.

from memory tho if you stick your head in the footwell you can see the stereo wiring, so dont think it should be too much greif?
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Fil
thats a bugger, as allready have a kit, just after a conection lead part no.

from memory tho if you stick your head in the footwell you can see the stereo wiring, so dont think it should be too much greif?
Parrot will know- but I imagine you will still need to find a switched live.

There is an art to vehicle installations- you can make it look like you did it yourself, or you can make it look like it came from the factory like it.

All depends how much know how and skill you have.

Either way- and no offence- you're questions make me think you haven't taken enough cars apart- especially modern cars to make this an easy task.

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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you dont need a seperate live for parrots coz they work with the stereo so when ever you have power to your stereo ya parrot is on
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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none taken, only really played with older cars, sierras etc

well ive got a few months before christmas to sort something.

but surely theres a live on the stereo somewhere? or 12v socket rear conections
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by steveturbocal
you dont need a seperate live for parrots coz they work with the stereo so when ever you have power to your stereo ya parrot is on
You have no idea what you're talking about!!!!!!

Parrot CK3100 requires:
LIVE
SWITCHED LIVE
NEGATIVE/EARTH

Audio inputs and Audio outputs, ideally it also requires a mute signal- but the relay in the parrot kit is quite clever and it is not neccesary.

Modern car stereos work using LIVE and NEGATIVE the on signal comes from CANBUS which is activated during vehicle ignition (or in some cases fibre optics/infra red) this is digital signals in the form of a pulse and tell the stereo what to do via these pulses.
IE ON or OFF

http://www.powerbase-auto.co.uk/canbus.htm

They carry little or no voltage and certainly not enough to power something off of and the fact they pulse means even if they did they would not work

In fact messing with these would possibly damage other systems on the vehicle.

The ONLY way this guy may be able to use the back of the stereo is IF the CANBUS switchs on a redundant switched live for the likes of a power aerial or for a cd changer- however as the chap in question has already stated he wants plug and play due to potential warrenty issues this is not an option.

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Fil
none taken, only really played with older cars, sierras etc

well ive got a few months before christmas to sort something.

but surely theres a live on the stereo somewhere? or 12v socket rear conections

See my reply.

Fuse board or alternativly fag lighter (if it has one, as most are spec'd optional extra's now adays)- however knowing newer vehicles such as this it will probably be permenant as its a utility vehicle and you dont neccesarily want the engine running or the ignition on while something is plugged in (this is how manufacturers think)

Best bet - like I said is speak to Parrot and ask them if they do an interface to plug and play.

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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just buy a sound on top lead halfords or any good audio shop sell them there avbout 20 pounds and if u tell them the reg of the car they will tell wot one u need
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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cheers shings will be emailing parrot tomorrow now, as plug and plays the only real option. And see what they say / recomend
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Fil
cheers shings will be emailing parrot tomorrow now, as plug and plays the only real option. And see what they say / recomend
If you want to know owt in particular PM me, I will talk to some of my mates and see what they suggest regarding an install if needs be and help where I can otherwise.

I have been out of it 12mths so haven't personally taken apart a new defender.

BUT- I must have fitted 1000 Parrots
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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If it externally amped, then armour auto/autoleads will do a lead for it, part numbers usually start with SOT.
www.armourauto.co.uk

Speak to the manically depressed scottish woman in their technical dept, she knows her shit
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It'll be one of these I reckon
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Daveysaff
If it externally amped, then armour auto/autoleads will do a lead for it, part numbers usually start with SOT.
www.armourauto.co.uk

Speak to the manically depressed scottish woman in their technical dept, she knows her shit
from that site i get,

Make: LANDROVER
Model: DEFENDER
Year: 2007
Variation: Standard
Amp type: Standard

ISO Creation: SOT-066
Relayed Telemute Lead: 06-060B
Direct Input Loom: Not required
Additionals: Not relevant Make: LANDROVER
Model: DEFENDER
Year: 2007
Variation: Standard
Amp type: Standard
ISO Creation: SOT-976
Relayed Telemute Lead: 06-976B
Direct Input Loom: Not required
Additionals: Not relevant


could the lead in red be the one im looking for?
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Fitted mine myself

As I have no factory speakers (all ran off amps), a trip to the pound shop and I was sorted

Great kits...

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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu.H
Fitted mine myself

As I have no factory speakers (all ran off amps), a trip to the pound shop and I was sorted

Great kits...

what to? a 2007 defender?
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Originally Posted by Fil
from that site i get,

Make: LANDROVER
Model: DEFENDER
Year: 2007
Variation: Standard
Amp type: Standard

ISO Creation: SOT-066
Relayed Telemute Lead: 06-060B
Direct Input Loom: Not required
Additionals: Not relevant Make: LANDROVER
Model: DEFENDER
Year: 2007
Variation: Standard
Amp type: Standard
ISO Creation: SOT-976
Relayed Telemute Lead: 06-976B
Direct Input Loom: Not required
Additionals: Not relevant


could the lead in red be the one im looking for?
Yeah, i reckon so
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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No plugs or extras needed in the end btw,

a bit late but a few install pictures,
the cable from the display goes into the vent pipe, then out via a small hole i made.
the control box fits nicely behind the cover under the dash on the passenger side.




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