Good idea or not ?

I've never really been a fan of doing it and from pics of rally cars etc I've seen they don't use them either.

I'm looking for a proper opinion on this as "yeh should be ok" won't really do considering its the one thing keeping your car in a straight line.

 

Good for reducing (or increasing) bump steer

Lots of rally cars have them

 

Unless I am missing something I dont see what the advantage would be over a track control arm?

 

was thinking of doing this too

 

so was i on the mk.2.

 

nor do i, hence we are talking about track rod arms

 

I clearly haven't been paying enough attention lol

That just about answers my question then, I was curious due to safety issues but there no weaker/stronger than a TCA rod end I suppose and that is quite crucial that it stays where it should

I've always been led to believe that having the steering arms as flat as possible is the way to do things, I had some inverted carriers made for a nova that accepted the oe rod end, the advantage of using a rose joint is being able to set the angle rather than it being fixed dependant on the ride height, ofcourse its another area to be adjusted but what is optimum ?

 

I've had problems with bump steer on my car if you do a google search there's loads of info about it.

Bumpsteer is caused by the steering arm getting longer and shorter thoughout its travel and steering the wheel. If you use a rose joint on the steering arm you can use spacers to raise or drop the arm in relation to the TCA to keep the length the same as the suspension arc's.

If you read up on it bumpsteer can be used in some situations.

 

Johnny,

You do want your steering arms as level as possible, it does depend on the ride height of the car of course...we spacer up and down to acheive the best angle...

On our car we run a system which has a female threaded housing and a GEH12C spherical bearing....

 

my track rod ends are being changed for rose jointed items.

other than the above reasons, they occupy less space than the standard rod ends, albeit only a few MM, but its enough to help enable the clearances i require to fit my big brakes inside the stupid wheels ive got.

 

Thanks for all the replies.

Have you got a picture of yours Ian (or Kelv) so I can show it to someone.

Thanks again

 

Our Ford fitting ones

 

Tony will these fit a mk3 fiesta hub/rack please

What price are they?

 

Johnny,

These are some that were on e-bay recently, but ours are very similar, these in the pic are actually 909 gravel steering arms......

They have a M12 fine threaded track bars L/H and R/H for easy adjustment....

Ian

 

They look good Tony, how much though ?

Ian, they look hmm expensive, similar setup to the group a uniballs for the nova

 

Yes pal they are....i ran ones similar to the ones Tony is doing for year on a sierra rally car without any problems....

 

Prices for the full kits are from Ł70 that includes all hardware and 2 rose joints.

Popular on Fords Pugs Evo's etc

 

Any setups for Vauxhalls available ?

 

Nova and Corsa yes, but i didn't have a picture in my photobucket account.

 

Pm'd you Tony

 

Mega helpful thread - thanks for posting this up Jon :thumb:

Tony - I'd like to buy a set for a Nova please, can you PM me with where I can send the money please?

Thanks

Olly

 

No problem Olly

 

Thought this may be easier than starting a new thread but i am looking to do the same on a mk2 fiesta and just wondered if anyone is still able to supply these and if they are supplied with the corect taperd cone to fit in teh upright.

Thanks and best regards,

Phil.

 

no they will need to be made to fit your original upright

 

I've got a pair of these, they actually increase bump steer on a lowered cosworth as standard, you will need to spacer them down from the hub by quite a way to reduce bumpsteer, 15mm (and a longer bolt to match) will bring them back to a standard Track rod end.

 

Stick a misalignment spacer on the head end of those bolts before you fit them, prevents the ring of the rosejoint being able to escape.

IMO theyre fine, as long as you dont try to space them too far away from the steering arm. If bolted to the arm, the bolt is in shear (well actually tension if its direct contact and the ball is clamped to the arm) whereas when you get a good distance away youre putting the bolt and any spacers under increasing bending loads. Before anyone jumps in, high tensile bolts WONT save you from bending loads.

 

Are these still available for the Sierra steering arms? I actually don't need them so much for the height adjustment but instead for a little extra length. i.e. Using Granada ARB, TCA, and uprights on a Sierra.

 

Why not just use the Sierra track rod ends? I think there is quite a lot of thread on them, so should be ok.