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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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As title - does it casue the diff/box etc to go bang, and lock the rear wheels???? -
If so, how far can you normally go.....
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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did you find it?!
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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nope, not yet...... tyring to work out how far they could have gone if the rear locks solid....
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I can't imagine it would get far, but I would think it would bust the diff. In other words, I can't see that it would stop them getting away.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Ok, thats all I needed to know! - cheers!
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sorry mate i didnt see the thread was stickied and only read it earlier this morning. gutted mate
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Originally Posted by Rolls
Ok, thats all I needed to know! - cheers!
Don't take my word as gospel though, my personal knowledge of 4x4 is limited!!
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Originally Posted by Rolls
As title - does it casue the diff/box etc to go bang, and lock the rear wheels???? -
If so, how far can you normally go.....
The centre VC in the box would probably fail.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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as in my other post if the front end is in the air and the back end is on the ground being towed it sounds like a spec lift, not the best thing to tow a 4wd, it does give me a idea that the thevin fuckers may of been chancers and were prepared to drag it whatever happened
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willl that lock the rear then Martin?
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolls
willl that lock the rear then Martin?

Probably not, iirc you'll just loose drive to the front wheels
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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ok, thanks!
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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if you drag teh car with the front wheels in the air, you'll probably get a few hundred yards before the viscous coupling is fucked
in good condition the rear wheels will be pushing the fronts along but you really need to work out the internals of the viscous coupling to get your hear around it, once you do, it's easy as

the viscous locks the front and rear output shafts of the gearbox together, and it always does this if the car is moving or not
when you put your foot down, the torque is sent 2/3rds to the rae and 1/3rd to the front due to the different sized cogs in the transfer box so you have permanent 4wd all the time
the reason you see if making a big difference when you go round corners is that the front wheels are "driven" and are pulling the car around the corner (akerman steering principle, i'm sure someone will be able to enlighten everyone more about it and the fact that the front wheels take a longer route around a corner than the rears do etc, etc)

so when the rea prop is being turned, it's turning the front prop at the same time

if the viscous fails you can still drive the car because the front and rear props are rotating at the same speeds so the transfer box thinks everything is working fine
when you go round a corner though, all the spinning goes to the front so you lose a lot of power that way
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They could have put the little scateboard things under the rear wheels
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Originally Posted by carlo
They could have put the little scateboard things under the rear wheels
especially if the handbrake was on
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