the engine was running in another car, same loom, same everything. i've just put it into my orion.

got fuel, got spark, but it wont fire.the fuel pump does prime and the engine turns over the timing hasn't changed and i've checked all the earths that i know to. any ideas?

 

put some throttle on when you start mine does this, make sure the rght plugs are on properly etc

 

have you checked all the boost hoses?
i remember on mine i took the some parts of my engine and when i put it back toghther i forgot to tighten one of the boost hoses and it wouldn,t start

have a look

 

as u turn it over gently push the paddle on the metering head down,only a little bit tho,also make sure u got ya plugs on the back of the engine in the right order!

 

oh and make sure u got the earth next to the wiper motor on!!

 

tried it with some throttle loads of times.
boost pipes seem ok.
tried the paddle thing before, it seems pressurised, you can hear it pumping (petrol?) through the pipes when its pushed, then after 3 or 4 pushes it goes limp. got the wiper motor earth

already done all of it, but still no joy. hence why i'm stuck! i've got no wipers though, so i'm taking the clocks out tomoz and having a loosky behind the dash to check the earths there.

 

did u remember to plug the ecus in

 

what order is that mate?

i've got a push on nipple on the oil filter, a blue one on the fuel rail, a yellow one on the back of the inlet, and a black one on what looks like a thermostat towards the offside.

 

shit the bed! err.. YEAH!

 

should be a brown one underneeth aswel bud!!

 

worth checkin, i saved these pics off previous topics

 

sounds like your pressing the metering flap after youve tried cranking it.

so there will be pressure, but as u pump the fuel into the injectors by pushing the flap down, the pressure will drop.

get someone to crank it over, and gently and very marginally i.e. 4mm from shut, push the flap down and see what happens.

is your fuel pump going when cranking? it might prime, but might not be pumping when your cranking it over (dodgy fuel relay)

any air leak whatesoever (i.e. fucked d.v) might hamper it starting.

it could be something like timing, idle mixture, fuel pressure (needs to be allot on mfi!) air leak, plugs fouled (take them out, wire brush or even replace with NGK BCR 8ES gapped to 25thou) plugs round the right way on dizzy, hall sensor 'ok' not cable tied bodge?

few things to try....

check the fuses in the fuse box, especially the 'heated seat' fuse as its for the fuel injection.

 

thanks for that, i seem to be missing the brown plug from them pics, i really dont remember seeing it although thats probably bollocks.





yeah i was pressing the metering unit after cranking. just because..... i didn't think it had anything to do with the fuel pressure or such.
not 100% on the fuel pump going whilst cranking, its too noisy to hear from inside. but you can hear it for 2/3 secs after the engine stops cranking

i cant rule out an air leak yet.

timing hasn't changed, fuel pressure is good (i had a leak to start with and it was spraying out from a banjo bolt and clearing the scuttle panel checked plugs and leads. whats a hall sensor although i dont recall anythig being cable tied or i would've asked sooner and sorted it.

 

it started! thanks chaps

i had the yellow and brown plugs mixed up

 

sweet

 

Thats my Engine/Pic

Glad it helped you out and you got it runing

 

sound chaps

if i hadn't got that pic i'd have kept on missing the yellow plug, you just cant see it when the engines in.

 

It's usually something simple

 

simple like the owner

 

i have nothing to come back with