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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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hi all ,

bought a kent cam 34 sport r had it put in the car about 50 mile and its been knocking its ass off . took the rocker cover off to inspect it and its chipped on one off the lobes and worn on each of the lobes . took the car to an engineering firm and they have told me to send it back as ther could off been a problem with it . as any body had this problem . and as anybody had to return a cam to kent and how did you get on .

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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I understand that there has been numerous issues with kent cams and poor quality of late, resulting in similar problems as yourself.

Newman cams seem to be about the best, no problems with mine or any others
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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kent are awfull cams newman are the best u can buy i got newman in both my s1 rst and my s2 rst and they r the dogs bollox mate
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Mine kent cams cvh 35 set also cracked without any reasonable reason
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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did anybody take theres back to kent cams about there and if so how did you get on ?

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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How did you run the cam in?
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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once started tick over for a few mins then up to 1500 rpm for 2 mins then idle for 2 mins then up to 1700 rpm for to mins then back to idle and so on . i was told this the best way by an engineering firm who rebuild top end s , does this sound right ?

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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No, it's completely wrong. At least 2000rpm for 20 minutes on a new cam (assuming you're talking about a CVH).
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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I fell out with Kent over this about 3 or 4 years ago. It's been going on ages and I have been battering on out it on here for ages, but still people keep buying them.

The worst thing you can do is to let the car idle for the first 20 mins of its running time. 2500-3000rpm is what it needs. If you must drop the revs (for example if the car starts to overheat), turn it off. Best bet is to drive it whilst running the cam in, if you can do so safely, but still don't let the revs drop and try not to rev it much harder.

That said, even a miracle can't help Kent.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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do you think if i got in contact with kent ill get summit sorted or am i gonna be pissing in the wind ? ha

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Kent will ask you if you ran it in properly, if you say what you said above they will say "goodbye".

I have only seen maybe once instance of a Kent cam prematurely wearing when it's been run-in correctly and had good oil pressure.

Your running-in process you detail above is 99% likely to be the cause of your cam failure.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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get in touch with kent, the sam happened to me, one of the followers failed and got lodged in the chamber causing it to wear thr exhaust lobe completely. Kent sent me a new one out in the post within 2 weeks. If they give you any shit put a post up on this forum and we can group together to prove its a common fault. as for running in the cam, the purpose of this is aminly for the followers, they need to compress and fill with oil, I found that the best way is to do this when they are out, means they arnt dry once installed.

Hope this helps mate

p.s. I have onluy heard good things about newmans so that what im getting when funds permit!
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Autoflock
get in touch with kent, the sam happened to me, one of the followers failed and got lodged in the chamber causing it to wear thr exhaust lobe completely. Kent sent me a new one out in the post within 2 weeks. If they give you any shit put a post up on this forum and we can group together to prove its a common fault.
But whats the point in Kent sending you a new cam? It'll happen again.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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bin the kent and get the newman
kent and piper were havin issues in 2001 when i got my newman and still theres posts about them 7 year on
kent and piper shouldnt even be considered now as an cam choice for the rst's
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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thanks for comments , rang kent today they want me to send the cam back so took it out after work so it should be with them this week . had a better look at it and on one of the lobes its flat at the top one s chipped and all show wear . whats the best newman cam what doesnt run really lumpy

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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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OFFICIAL PASSIONFORD NOTICE: NEWMAN CAMS ARE FLAVOUR OF THE MONTH
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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no newman cams are not flavour of the month newman cams are sheer quality.. but in this case cam was not run in properly, my last kent cam cvh37 excellent profile lasted 76miles six lobes were completely worn.. and cam was run in properly i now run a newman phase four cam with single valve springs.. engine just loves to rev..

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dazrs
thanks for comments , rang kent today they want me to send the cam back so took it out after work so it should be with them this week . had a better look at it and on one of the lobes its flat at the top one s chipped and all show wear . whats the best newman cam what doesnt run really lumpy

cheers daz
Of course they want you to send it back. Now they can 'inspect' it, tell you it was your fault and you'll never see the cam again. By sending it back to them, it stops you from being able to get anyone else to inspect it. They may send you a new one, but as I said earlier, don't fit it.

Newman isn't an easy answer, you'll then have the solid followers to set up. If you get those wrong, that cam will be fucked too, so don't think Newman is the be-all-and-end-all.

Regarding which cam, Newman have one off-the-shelf CVH cam which will suit most RS Turbo's, so just go for that.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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I heard (on here somewhere) that Newman do a cam with Hydraulic lifters too?!
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
But whats the point in Kent sending you a new cam? It'll happen again.
my point is that if you pay good money for a product and it fails, either fight to get your money back or an item that works, by sending it back you can either have a new boxed item which you can sell for a half decent price or you could try and get your money back to put towards a better option (newmans)

If you can afford to just throw it in the bin and move on then you surely have enough moeny to afford a better car
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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I am pretty sure that next new camshaft what i gonna use is standard cvh efi cam with new tappets. New from Ford.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Autoflock
my point is that if you pay good money for a product and it fails, either fight to get your money back or an item that works, by sending it back you can either have a new boxed item which you can sell for a half decent price or you could try and get your money back to put towards a better option (newmans)

If you can afford to just throw it in the bin and move on then you surely have enough moeny to afford a better car
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that surely you wouldn't fit another cam in your car that you know is going to self destruct. God knows I've had it happen enough times to know. Just triyng to stop alot of people making this same mistake.

I got to a point where I got sick of fighting, took it on the chin and put it down to experience.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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take the advice what people are telling you

if you get a replacement sell it and get a newman cam, if you can not adjust solid lifters get a hydraulic profile from them
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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A friend of mine bought a kent cam kitand fitted it and run the cam in correctly for 20 mins. The cam lobes soon wore down. He sent it back to kent and they said that it was his fault and that he must of had a blocked oil way. So another kent cam kit was bought and the same running in prosess done. A few hundred miles later the same thing happened. But this time the lobe had worn down on a different part of the cam.

In both circumstances kent did not refund any money of offer another cam. In the end a standard profile cam kit was bought for £100 from a motor factors and all has been fine since. The lesson has now been learned after spending £ 500 on kent cams ! I will never recomend a kent to anybody.
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