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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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Truely Gangsta mapped

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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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It did go a bit well.......


For about 30 seconds...
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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Keeping with the budget theme, I reckon a normal 1.8 clio engine (like a mid 90s one) on bike throttle bodies personally
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Any pics of the new colour scheme???

Next time, give me a bit more notice on the little shit stickers
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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yeh how the fuck that went up like that when the boost limit was 1.4 bar that control valve was def dodgy

pmsl@ gangsta mapped but bu fook it went well defo 197 mike
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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oh and ffs mike get rid of that childs car seat took me bucket of grease to get in it anddive 20 mins to strap me in
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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oops LOL
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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And the winner of Passionfords Best quote for Quarter 1 2008 goes to.....


















Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
there was a magical missunderstanding when we talked about boost










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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Youd be mad to not leave it turbo, esp as them engines are worthless and you got most the bits. Easy power from your engine too.

"dont be gay, ignore n/a"
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Youd be mad to not leave it turbo, esp as them engines are worthless and you got most the bits. Easy power from your engine too.

"dont be gay, ignore n/a"
what he said
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
"dont be gay, ignore n/a"
2 classic quotes in 1 topic.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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197bhp from a standard (and pretty much guarenteed to be reliable) N/A engine with awesome throttle response and utterly no lag is plenty in a renault 5 track car.

I believe it will be quicker laptimes than on the turbo motor with its worse power deliver, excessive mid range boost that tails off, and lack of throttle control.

Im a big fan of turbo motors, but in this situation, I reckon the more modern multivalve larger capacity N/A is the better of the two options personally.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer

somehow there was a magical missunderstanding when we talked about boost........
guage or absolute
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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2 bar iirc but obviously the valve was workin correctly ,plus adding to the fact the car wasnt mapped at all properly with no det cans due to being on track with helmets but i did say it needing setting up the day before properly but with not finishing the car until 3am on the saturday when we were on track was defo a recipe for disaster next time mike we need more time
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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So the boost valve wasnt working, so you couldnt actually control it anyway, you werent allowed to use det cans, and you had in fact not mapped it anyway as you hadnt had the time.

And yet its YOUR fault it blew up somehow

With friends like that, you dont need any enemies starting rumours about you, LOL


You should get a t-shirt saying "the fall guy" for your next visit
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Micheal, I think you need to read my post again mate, as you have CLEARLY totally misread it.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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micheals attitude to it if it lets go it lets go i did my best with what i had as he knew we hadnt finished it , so i dont think i was made to be a fall guy lol
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
either u calling me a cunt or jay.....u wanna decide ? now for you to explain.....
charming
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
So the boost valve wasnt working,
sumat well wrong there boost limit was set plus the the boost map was set to run only 1.2 bar
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay.
sumat well wrong there boost limit was set plus the the boost map was set to run only 1.2 bar
Was never going to be a happy ending with so little time to "prepare" (you cant really even call it that, lol) the car, with timings like that, you could start a new olympic extreme sport of speed mapping

All joking aside though with a working basemap and knowing the loom etc must now be all ok, (if it was going that well there cant be any major issues on that side) then with a quick freshen up (or replace, lol) of the engine and a bit more time, it sounds like its going to be a little animal on track, and on the plus side, at least it gives you an excuse for another visit
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros

"dont be gay, ignore n/a"



classic
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
he doesnt need excuses....him and daryl got their own reserved room all yr long

but ur right, maybe i should blow up another 1 so that they come see me more often
get one bought then

or we could go for the clockwork 197 and fit it once lol

either way ill be there to help
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Back to being serious for a bit, that 197 lump does sound like a better option than snotty old turbo motors from a scrapyard, that sort of thing is great for a bit of fun, but its never going to be a reliable car that way, where as with that 197 lump you could have been out ALL day in that R5 with no drama I bet, and probably made some really exotic cars look silly on the track
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
did i mention i still got a YB (blue top) that aint doin nottin..... ???
you can fuck off come on no fucking about its gotabe a 197 so get it sorted
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
thats wot im thinking chip...turbo is good fun but not for long....whereas the 197 will be going all day, no break.....
Yep!

Which is exactly what you want by the sounds of it, a communal fun little car that you and all your mates can jump in whenever you are bored, and just abuse round the track for a bit, switch it off at the end and not have to do anything to it before you use it again
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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I think that everyone did a great job of building the car, and I think that it's all Mike's fault, as I'm sure he asked for 2 bar .

I think it another 1.7 litre lump should be purchased and it mapped for a nice conservative 1.2 bar - you know how quick it was on 0.8 - will be as cheap as cheaps and will use all the parts you already have. Personally to throw all the intercooler / trubo etc in the bin, just doesn't make sense when another Renault 1.7 litre engine can be picked up for next to nothing. You just need some time mapping it then WELL BEFORE the track day, not on the day .
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