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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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whats the craic with these, has anyone used them?
how do you use it/dry it?, eg if spraying a whole car?,
or do you have to have a spraybooth to use them?

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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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kind of the as same solvent but it goes on a totaly diffrent couler when its wet but you have to let it totalty dry before you rebase it with couler.
then you laquer it with the usual
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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someone told me you need air circulateing over the whole car when its drying, what kinda setup would ya need for that? couple of fans or am i totally wrong? lol
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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nah we dont have that in are booth mate.
we just have your usual extraction. suppose u could heat lamp it off or heat gun it. its just that the base has got to be totaly dry before you put top coat on it. or when doin another coat of base
we have based up repairs out in the workshop before so you dont have to do it in a booth just a booth gives a better dust free evoirment
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 01:43 AM
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waterbase it harder and takes longer to use than solvant but i use it without an oven/booth n found the best way to dry the basecoat is both air and heat, blow the air from the spray gun and wave a heat gun around to,
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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just to help u out a bit idont no what colour ur spraying but the best way is to get ur garage realy warm get a couple of old car rad fans blowing down either side so the air is drawing the water out of the paint make sure each coat is dry if its not metalic u can still get solid colours in 2 pack p.s. dont add 10% of thinner like the reps say take it to about 5% hope this helps.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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thats a good idea about the rad fans lol never thought of that!
any other tips yous can think of let me know

thanks all
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Waterbase isnt much different than solvent.

The water is the transporter instead of the solvent been the transporter, transporting the pigment to the panel!and thats it really.

You'll find colours cant be wet matched like before, so i advise a sprayout card 1st! When drying i would recommend an oven and blowers, either hand held or built into the oven like Junair Quads .

You need air movement to dry the water, the easiest way to describe it is it's like having you clothes out on a washing line on a dry dull day with no wind compared to a sunny day with some breeze/wind! The 1st would dry eventually, but the 2nd would dry far quicker.

Simple really,
Oh and you need a seperate spraygun and not the same one you'll use to laquer as you'll cause yourself problems
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Whats the reason for the two guns, what problems does it cause bigpower
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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So what is it with the water based paints can u not get 2 pack and the ordinary base and laquer have they stopped selling that type of paint now,been out of the trade for 8 yrs now,i suppose its health and saftey laws.........neil
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:47 AM
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prep has to be mint aswell
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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Whats the reason for the two guns, what problems does it cause bigpower
Solvent will cause problems if the water gets mixed with it.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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It goes down lovely, like matt black from a can I found. Really easy to paint with but you just have to be careful with the drying, don't be impatient or you can get water marks under your laquer.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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GREAT info thanks!
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Whats the reason for the two guns, what problems does it cause bigpower
Solvent will cause problems if the water gets mixed with it.
gotcha, makes sense realy, cheers.
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