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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Default .86 to .64 A/R = :-)

following from this thread https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=307992
just been out in the car after swapping
from a .86 to .64 hotside housing
and what a transformation
full boost well before 4k ,
feels so much better,
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Just need to check the fueling low down now
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Just need to check the fueling low down now
i run compensation maps so should be ok but
will get it mapped as a safety
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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i think mine has .63 but not external tho
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Definately does what it says on the tin.

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i think mine has .63 but not external tho
0.63 A/R T3 housing is alot different to a 0.64 A/R T28 housing, which is what Lee has. It's all relevant to the size of turbo in any case, and contrary to alot of peoples opinions, regarding turbine housings bigger isn't always better.

Also, I would definately NOT rely on compensation maps, it's a very bad habit and only takes for your lambda sensor to have a 'moment' and you're looking at a meltdown. Remember that you now have 1.4 bar of boost somewhere in the map where it didn't have 1.4 bar before, so that part of the map may have not even been looked at.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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C - it's a ratio, i know this, which means the physical size could be huge;y different. Is there a large physical difference between the two?

Rick.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Wheres the cheapest place to get one of these turbos ?
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Originally Posted by mitchrst
Wheres the cheapest place to get one of these turbos ?
One of what turbo's? Lee's is one of many GT Series turbo's out there. There are 10's of different variations.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by mitchrst
Wheres the cheapest place to get one of these turbos ?
One of what turbo's? Lee's is one of many GT Series turbo's out there. There are 10's of different variations.
I mean the GT2540R Christian or a GT28RS
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by Rick
WTF?
He's asking you something, hence the C.
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Originally Posted by Rick
C - it's a ratio, i know this, which means the physical size could be huge;y different. Is there a large physical difference between the two?

Rick.
Fuck knows. Happy now?!!??!
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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no. answer my question!
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Wheres the cheapest place to get one of these turbos ?
One of what turbo's? Lee's is one of many GT Series turbo's out there. There are 10's of different variations.
I mean the GT2540R Christian or a GT28RS
Those 2 turbo's are quite different IMO.

I'd expect up to 350bhp from the GT28RS and over 400bhp from the GT2540R personally. As for where is cheapest to get them, that would be importing from the US probably (if you're flukey enough to avoid customs/VAT charges), but should price be your one concern?
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by Rick
WTF?
He's asking you something, hence the C.

Ahhhh i thought the C stood for Cunt [/b]
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Originally Posted by Rick
no. answer my question!
Is there a big physical difference? Not that is immediately obvious to the eye, but IMO, the 0.64 A/R T28 housing is roughly comparable to the 0.48 A/R T3 housing.

Better??
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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C
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
Is there a large physical difference between the two?

Rick.


This one?
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Is this the most complicated question/answer scenario ever??!!
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No. Shit answer i'm afraid. You haven't justified your opinion. I'd just give up if i were u
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
No. Shit answer i'm afraid. You haven't justified your opinion. I'd just give up if i were u
Well, I have far more important things to do than make pointless physical comparisons between different turbine housings, I am usually more interested in fitting them to the car and letting the dyno do the talking.

Though, I think my answer was quite informative.

Rick - Have you been drinking??
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Pointless? I beg to differ....

This wll give u a rough idea of flow capacity.

But - you're right, and i forgot that u had a dyno!! Have u done a dyno compare on the same engine and front end?
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Originally Posted by Rick
Pointless? I beg to differ....

This wll give u a rough idea of flow capacity.

But - you're right, and i forgot that u had a dyno!! Have u done a dyno compare on the same engine and front end?
We're very picky this evening, aren't we??!!

There is no way that from studying the physical size, you could judge the performance. I have both a 0.64 and a 0.86 A/R T28 housing and externally you couldn't tell the difference. I know how they both perform and how the 0.63 A/R T3 housing performs by comparison.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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As they are internally bored differently

Why questioning is this:

Both housings are ment for the same front end - ie. a turbo that can flow x amount of air. Now u say that the 63 and 64 are really different. one is 25, one is t3. as far as i can tell, this is just bolt pattern, and has little to do with intake area? a ratio of 63 to 64 makes naff all difference if both housings have similar physical dimesnions. you say they are diff - i want to know why
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I would definately NOT rely on compensation maps, it's a very bad habit and only takes for your lambda sensor to have a 'moment' and you're looking at a meltdown. Remember that you now have 1.4 bar of boost somewhere in the map where it didn't have 1.4 bar before, so that part of the map may have not even been looked at.
Compensation map seems to be eeerrrrrrmmm fookin spot on.
just did another spark plug check and they look so perfect,
so much better than in the pic, these have a few thousand
miles on too
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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My T28 has a .86 , I hate how laggy it is!


where can I get a .64 from?
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
My T28 has a .86 , I hate how laggy it is!


where can I get a .64 from?
got my .64 for Ł100 delivered genuine garrett
brand new from atp turbo.
straight bolt on job.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Ah nice one
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