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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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I just got an email from a dutch based company who explained a bit about a variable turbocharger so i was like what?!

Basicly the have and extra valve in the ex. housing that with lower rpms/boost is almost closed so there is more pressure on it and when further on the throttle it opens!

somehow it does sounds dodgy but i reckon it has a point as well!


here is the pic they sent it with!




what do u think ?
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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if we mean variable vein turbos then been done for years mate, mainly on diesels.

theres a reason its not used on petrols, reliability reasons, probably to do with heat, not sure

if you mean summat else, fuck knows
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rene
in the ex. housing that with lower rpms/boost is almost closed so there is more pressure on it and when further on the throttle it opens!
its called a wastegate you spoon
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RSrussell
its called a wastegate you spoon
no u numbnuts! i know what a fookin wastegate does!
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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ah so now you add a pic to make me look stupid
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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if we mean variable vein turbos then been done for years mate, mainly on diesels.

theres a reason its not used on petrols, reliability reasons, probably to do with heat, not sure

if you mean summat else, fuck knows
it is ? hmmm didnt know that !

but i diesel is out of puff quickly anyway
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RSrussell
ah so now you add a pic to make me look stupid
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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They do it on diesels rene so they can use a bigger ex housing and still have no lag, so they dont run out of puff so easy top end.

Itd be good on a petrol if it works properly, but theres an issue with VVTs that stop that happening, dont remember why, but there is, hence why we not all using them
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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aaah ok steve thanks!

anybody knows for sure why we aint using them ?
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Variable vane has been around ages as Steve said. Petrol engines run too hot for them though but IIRC I think there are a few cars appearing with this technology. Might be bollox though.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Geoff Kershaws ballistic missile 24v 3dr Sprint car uses 2 of these , he runs Turbo technics for those who didn't know . I will be talking to Giles about one maybe for next year once i understand a bit more about them as im just as in the dark as all you experts .
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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DazC,
I think there are a few cars appearing with this technology

we use VNT on our petrol engines !! , very effective i suppose , would like to see it on a very h igh performance engine tho !!
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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I had a magazine feature on his car but ive lost it

But yea was gonna say that 24v twin turbo thing used 2 of em.

Meant to be 600bhp or summat wasnt it?
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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im sure the pug 205 t16 had it
but like said,,, they had to change turbos,,, alot

theres loads of derv on the road with it,, sprinter vans being one
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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It does Fookin go ... Seen him Sprint a few times , well built car and a quality Driver too , shown an interest in Racing with us next year from what i was told . 4wd tho' with some interesting ideas and tiny wheels !
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Variable Geometry turbochargers - been around for a few of years now - when i worked for Holset Engineering in huddersfield (they make turbochargers and turbochargers only ) i was involved with the construction of the VG assembly line (was a lectrical engineer there for 2 years) and it was some mean feat - them VG units went thru years and years of design and testing - used to love watching the test booths - they tested turbocharges to destruction on self contained units in sealed booths and also had engine test beds with dyno's on each bed - they were fantastic - 40% overfueling on an 14 litre cummins straight 6 - was pushing out over 700 horse power at 2600rpm . was asked to watch a test bed with a DAF engine on - tested that to destruction - snapped the crank in half and sent bits of engine all over that was fantastic
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Graceland
Variable Geometry turbochargers - been around for a few of years now - when i worked for Holset Engineering in huddersfield (they make turbochargers and turbochargers only ) i was involved with the construction of the VG assembly line (was a lectrical engineer there for 2 years) and it was some mean feat - them VG units went thru years and years of design and testing - used to love watching the test booths - they tested turbocharges to destruction on self contained units in sealed booths and also had engine test beds with dyno's on each bed - they were fantastic - 40% overfueling on an 14 litre cummins straight 6 - was pushing out over 700 horse power at 2600rpm . was asked to watch a test bed with a DAF engine on - tested that to destruction - snapped the crank in half and sent bits of engine all over that was fantastic
i reckon i need another job!

sounds fookin cool
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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http://www.holset.co.uk/files/2_5_1_...20geometry.php

explains the principles and fundimentals of a Variable Geometry turbo
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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http://www.holset.co.uk/pics-related...eometry/VG.swf

this even
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