Just bought myself a new rad and it's made by XS Power. Any good?

Cheers
Dave

 

Shouldnt be bad, all other rads for others cars ive seen by them have been decent, esp considering the money, or lack of.

Their UK drag car isnt shy, 170mph terminals anyone?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1DYK8gmq10

 

It does look fairly decent quality to be honest. I'll fit it tomorrow and see how it goes.

 

their turbo's seem to be quite pants as do their intercoolers but their radiators seem to be quite good tbh....bit rough around the edges ie weld neatness but apart from that nowt wrong with them. Look identical in way to the Airtech range imo.

 

Their intercoolers are proven to be perfectly good for the price (ie about a quarter of other companies stuff quite often), and the only true (and not mega old) experiences of their turbos ive seen have been decent too.

They not the best stuff on the market, but give better VFM than most.

The GT28RS i got from there spooled up faster and gave more power than the Garrett T28 that was on the car before.

Cant see a car being able to run a 8.0@168mph on a shit turbo and intercooler either.

 

How about their manifolds?

 

Crack like all unbraced stainless manifolds do, but as they all copies of big name ones, do the job performance wise.

(Aside from the cossie one obv, which is a stainless copy of the stock one, so a daft idea)

 

So if braces were added, do you think one would hold together ok?

 

As well as most other makes of stainless manifold would.

Ie they still will crack sometimes though, thats stainless manifolds for you.

I know people cracking HKS manifolds 3-4 times a year as they not braced em.

 

They make one for the Zetec turbo and i guess you really carnt complain for £150.

 

I got one of their cosworth alloy rads, found it was worth the money, but its fookin heavy.

 

Heavy is a sign of quailty!

 

Thats the case with most their stuff, its not great compared to something from primary designs, but for 150quid rather than 1500quid, its fucking awesome
Some people get em then beef em up with more metal etc.
Personally, id not bother unless it was no real extra effort/money, stainless manifolds crack now and again anyhow, i dont think extra welding helps much.

You can buy 4 of their manifolds for 1 HKS one for example, and I know someone who was cracking their unbraced HKS one about 4 times a year.
Decided to just buy a load of theirs and use em as disposable items at the price they are as getting the HKS one welded up all the time was a pain in the arse.
He ran a turbo hanger to help take the strain off the manifold too.
Hasnt broke one of em yet

 

How about their Evo Intercooler and Radiator that we fitted, tested, then removed as the standard items were more effective??

 

Evo stuff is good as standard, their stuff is VFM if the stock stuff is no good. Ie 200SX intercoolers etc etc.

IIRC Pace RS500 intercoolers used to be no better than 4x4 Saff ones.

 

I have their radiator but not on the car yet,looks very good and yes it's heavy

 

I've used and supplied a few of there product and as Steve says its great VFM. Ideal for if your on a budget.

 

crap

 

The intercoolers and rads seem to be fine, turbos Ive heard all the web horror stories but not used one myself.

I doubt their 170mph terminal car has the same products as they sell for peanuts though TBH


With regards to the manifolds, I also know someone (white 200sx from london way, forget the guys name I was talking to him down at my workshop monday night) who had an HKS one that kept cracking and has replaced it with a xs power one and it hasnt cracked yet.

 

ive got one of their 200sx manifolds and their turbo that is slightly smaller than an rs500 T4

not used em yet as the car dont run, but hopefully soon

ps ALL tubular manifolds NEED bracing!

 

Yes they do run there own products on the car, I've just brought the same charge cooler as on that car from them and yes you got it for peanuts ValueForMoney

 

but you pay for what you get

 

you want a bet? never make assumptions from internet bullshit

as they bloody do, it runs their inlet and exhaust manifolds, wastegate, turbo, chargecooler, dumpvalve, everything they sell that the car needs, it runs it, and i know that for a fact as ive seen it with my own eyes and know the parts well.

most of the parts were also on their (well, a customers/sponsor) Supra road car last year that used to run low 10s on road tyres at Santapod too.

the guy who owned that Supra tested the turbo to destruction on the dyno, well, attempted to, but they couldnt kill it.
and its another turbo that spooled up faster AND gave more power than the expensive Trust/Greddy T88 that was on it before.
which it would really, as its basically a garrett gt copy.

 

That's the same attitude that the Jap loving clueless goons on forums use to justify the fact that their intercooler cost them £1000, simply because it says "Greddy" on it.

I fitted an XS Power intercooler to an MR2 turbo a couple of weeks ago, and aside from the supplied hoses being a bit of a tight fit, the intercooler looked pretty good to me.

It's bar and plate, end tank design looks good.... and it cost £130 with all the hoses supplied!

 

and dont forget, 99% of people that slate stuff have NEVER actually seen/used the items that they slate.

 

Stav, I suspect the turbos on their car will be better balanced, more nicely finished etc, you misunderstood what I was saying, I wasnt saying they will be someone else's turbos, merely they wont be identical to what they sell you.
(like just about ANY motorsport, including "group n - showroom" rally cars etc)

 

Some of the ideas are a bit shocking though, like the RX7 intercooler package they do that sits the turbo between the radiator and the engine!
Heat soak tastic!

Intercooler is still well made, not slagging it off as there is nothing wrong with it, but what a silly instalation idea.

 

mine looks well made, but not used it yet.


Garett T35 on left, XSPower on right



XS left, Garett T35 right



XS







the manifold looks ok too

 

again you suspect WRONG then mate, trust me.

the guy at XS UK wouldnt know how to fit a turbo, never mind the knowlege that you could balance them better.

seriously, i know the setup on that car, its just straight out the box bits that XSP gave Steve, and Steve fitted to his Supra.

 

Do you know much about that kit mate?

Its just a COPY of a well known Jap system that is a direct replacment for the standard one, which sits in the SAME place.

Standard RX7 engine with IC behind rad, that doesnt work too bad...


Not the greatest plan ever, but its not their ideas, its a copy of an expensive jap branded direct replacment setup that seems to work ok.

Its same as direct replacment RS Turbo intercoolers etc.
Still shit in the grand scheme, but MUCH better than stock and just a straight swap.


Seriously man, stop jumping to all these conclusions.

 

Im not jumping to any conclusions, I just said it was a poor design, I didnt say who they copied it off or not!

 

PS

Here is my own XS Power intercooler, like I said, the products Ive used are fine, Ive got no issues with the coolers.

 

i have tested a lot of the xs power parts and yes they work but dont last as long, or work as well
yes the intercoolers are ok and the manifolds work but i have one here that looks like my 7 year old made it

 

Wow, your 7 year old must be pretty shit hot!

 

yes she is lol

 

any pics?

 

i will sort some out

 

i agree that their stuff may 'look' a bit naff, but function over form and all that, and at the price, its not going to up to PD or Pro Alloys standards by far