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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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Chip Type: Intel Pentium 4
Processor Speed: 1.7 GHz
Memory (RAM): 256 MB
Hard Drive Capacity: 40 GB
Primary Drive: DVD-ROM
Features: Graphics Card, Keyboard, Modem, Monitor, Mouse, Operating System, Printer, Speakers, USB

Is this a fairly good spec for a PC mainly used for std net surfin (512 connection) - ie mainly BB's, MSN etc.... and also normal PC shit like word, excel, photoshop etc....

And what would one expect to pay for a desktop system, in good second hand condition, with that spec?
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that shud be more than ample for surfing. and will do the job for photoshop ( depending on card) as long as its not antialising landscapes etc

as fordesktop system i can get
intel pentium 4 2.8ghz
512mb ram ddr
120gb harddrive
52x32x52 cdrw
16x dvd
128mb graphics card
soundcard, modem, speakers, keyboard, mouse, for £450 +P+P
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speak top gra on here too mate, he built mine
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or even jim got me a good price on a silly spec pc
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So what sort of price would I be looking at to pay for the one in my post, second hand?
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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aint got a clue second hand, tbh gra and jims qotes for pc's where better than second hand
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Jim / Gra - get the fook on here
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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I wouldnt pay more than 100 quid for that spec 2nd hand
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No?
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You can pick em up in the local paper week in week out with old specs, all cheap as
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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go and add it up on here pal:

www.scan.co.uk

Its a very basic spec, but if your only wanting to do very basic things then its probably cool
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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Oh well, price on that system is £190 and reserve not met So if not worth more than £100 then no point bidding...

I was looking at this one;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...127415133&rd=1

But starting to go out of my price range now too
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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How much do you have to spend?

Is your current PC upgradeable to save cash?
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speak to jim mate, he might actually be doing work today

gra done me a good deal, was really cheep but then i dont need a great pc
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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basically thats an ok system, although i would want to know the graphic card details, what monitor, mouse keyboard etc, I have not seen a p4 1.8ghz pc for £100, although saying that you could maybbe pick up a barebones system cheap. I will have a look for ya and reply later
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http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=143201
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http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=115455
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http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=103467
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Your existing harddisk, keyboard, mouse and modem = £253
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Iv just bought a Compaq, Tower unit only, £550.

AMD Athlon 3.2GHZ Processor.
512MB Memory
160GB Hard Drive
DVD Drive
DVD/CD Writer
NVidia GeForce 128MB Graphics card.
IEEE Firewire interface
TV/Radio Tuner with video out.

Best PC ive had and is amazingly quiet
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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that 1.7 P4 system isnt that bad... but TBH for a little more money you can get a lot more PC if you know what i mean

Rough price for you..
case £25
keyboard+mouse £15
motherboard £55 (inc sound/lan)
celeron 2.8ghz £70
512Mb DDR ram £50
17" monitor £70
CD rewriter £15
DVD re-writer £33
120GB HDD £50
Graphics card £35

Thats all pretty good stuff you could even save a few pennies here and there!
And obviously you wouldnt have to buy the dvd drive etc if you didnt want it.
you could just start iwth case, processor, mboard, ram, graphics card use your existing HDD, monitor, keyboard cd drive etc

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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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also with that P4 system you can simply plug a better processor in! (as long as the motherboard supports its clock speed)
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Stu, I don't know it might be Problem with this one is it is very dated by todays standards, small (9gb) HDD, small RAM, small MHz processor, and is soooooooooo full of shit in there it's better off just starting again, with a more uptodate operating system....

Would be usefull to be able to keep this one running too and bung it in another room (connected via router) for backup/other use too.... hence why I want to renew and start again

Have been looking at these;

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/pr...hs1&l=en&s=dhs

This I thought was quite cheap, but not as good spec;

http://outlet.dell.com/Emea_Dfo/EuDispatcher?target=SpecPage&serviceTag=0GV04CWH&s essionID=Bh0RcrWM!975047155!-401743633!1096889553904

http://outlet.dell.com/Emea_Dfo/EuDispatcher?target=SpecPage&serviceTag=D0MGJFM9&s essionID=Bh0RcrWM!975047155!-401743633!1096889553904
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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Thanks for all your reply's folks, shall await your reply Gra - hope the above give an idea of what it is a I want

TBH what I really want is a complete system, so I can keep this one complete. My sis jsut started college so she is gonna be needing to use it a lot, and will want half decent net access, so I have just ordered a router and get that installed in a few weeks, so she can have this one (and also my mother would be able to use it for her lesson plans and shit for school) while the new one is in place of this from normal use (me and bro basically) - and that leaves me another LAN port for my laptop upstairs (shitty old school cost £50 but least I get a bit of peace and quiet )

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you just wanna surf for porn in ya bedroom
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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wouldnt bother with that mate, i built a 2800+ xp with 256 meg 80 gig for 175 quid brand new (minus monitor) all brand new guarenteed

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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Stu - sounds intruiging(sp).... Personally I think ifI was to build or have one built, then I'd go for 80-120gb HDD, p4, 512 RAM, at least a 400MHz processor.... Than just add CD-RW, DVD-RW, floppy, maybe one of them multimedia card readers (one that fits in a floppy drive slot rathern than a USB attached one), and then just get a std keyboard and mouse - not sure on monitors - fancy a nice TFT one?
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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What about this? (tower only, no screen/keyboard etc) currently at £90

Chip Type: Intel Celeron
Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
Memory (RAM): 512 MB
Hard Drive Capacity: 40 GB
Brand: Dell
Primary Drive: CD-RW
Features: Modem, Operating System, USB
Condition: New

Dell GX60 Black Tower Computer,

Celeron 2200,512mb DDR Ram, 40gb Hard Disk Drive, Sony CD-RW Rom, with 2 x USB in front. In rear Serial, Parallel, 4 x usb's, 10/100 and Sound.

Updated hardware:

Another 256mb DDR Ram to increase to 512mb's
Radeon 9200 SE (128mb DDR Memory Graphics Card)
Installed software are:

WINDOWS XP PRO
NORTON ANTI VIRUS
OFFICE 2003
NERO STARTSMART (Burning Software)
ROXIO EASY MEDIA CREATOR (Burning Software)
POWER DVD v5.0
Dell Music Match
Games Installed are:

Grand Theft Auto - Vice City
DOOM 3
Alien vs Predator 2
Unreal Tournament 2004
Driver
Starsky and Hutch

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wouldnt grumble @ 90 quid!
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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What I want to know tho is that tower only worth £90? Or is it overpriced etc....

Speakers, mouse, keyboard etc all cheap enough to pick up, decent monitors look like they hard to get for less than £150 (for flat TFT/LCD I mean)
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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yeah but it aint gonna stay at 90 quid, ive noticed ebay computer stuff sells for fooking fortunes


be patient and speak to Gra ( i got mine off him), jim ( i was gonna get mine off him, was a wicked spec and a wicked price, just couldtr justify that amount for what i use me pc for)

or stu as hes seems to be able to spec a pc too
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Yeah waiting for Gra to respond later I hope....
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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HI mate, sorry i couldnt get on earlier I have been installing fooking P4's all day, (I should have nicked ya one lol)

Second hand I have been looking and for a P4 1.7ghz, you are looking to pay in the region of £150-£200 notes, for anew barebones system, (no monitor, software etc) you can expect to pay upwards of £250-£300.

have a look here at this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...126773364&rd=1

I think the best thing to do if your on a budget is look for a system which dont have a monitor or keyboard, the shitter the software the better. becuase i can give your a 17inch monitor for free if needed, plus i can sort you any software fro free if needed, so tis worth looking for that. there are some good P4s on ebay for £300 nnotes, but you dont say what your budget is. I cant build you one cos i dont have the time at the mo, Jim may knock one toghether, but you may find it cheaper to get a second hand P4 rather than source all new components
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So is that system good then? I see it's got a pretty decent HDD and large RAM, but I don't know about anything else bIs it worth that money?
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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i get my components from www.ebuyer.co.uk

components quite cheap there and good C/S as well

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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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as a general rule, you should be looking for as bigger a hardrive as you can get, 40gigs is a good start, memory you would want at least 256+. depending on whether you are playing any games or not will determine what spec video card you should aim for, if your not bothered about gaming then anything like a 16meg, 32meg card will keep costs down and still give good quality whilst being able to give good display rates, dont get caught up with CD rewriters cos they cost peanuts nowadays and are piss easy to install,(£15-20notes, for a cd writer, £45 for a dvd writer).
like i said dont get carried away with software, cos i hopefully get you most stuff, if i cant then you should be able to find iton the net,

that auction ounds cool, plus he says he never got the stand to stand the PC upright, but i can give you one of these for nowt anyway
monitors i can sort you a 17" if you want, but TFT's are going for about £80 ish
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Stu - yeah just got my router from ebuyer - some good deals on there

Gra - we changed the CD-ROM for CD-RW and it was like £25 a couple of years ago, and the DVD-RW was about £60 last year....

Not wanting to sound picky, but that PC looks cack Hate the keyboard and mouse

Can you get me a good flat TFT 17" for £80 then? If so I might just buy a tower set up and add normal keyboard and mouse and a screen to it, as these can be had for penuts on ebay anyway.... I guiess 90% are interchangeable?

Not really interested in games on PC, more just a net surfer, but obviously 2.2GHz processor is better than 1.7, but is 1.7 slow? I don't even know what I have in mine Doubt it's P4 tho.... As I said this is over 5yrs old now....

Budget wise I don't want to spend much above £300, cos £300 will get me a Dimension 2400, or for a few quid more a 3000 from Dell, and they are P4, with 512 RAMs and shit..... And include monitors and ancilleries....
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Gra - hows this looking?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...127752858&rd=1
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my mate has that exact pc, its the tits, by the way, check my other post,
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just looked TBH I want one with higer ram (512 seems good) and all this talk of P4 is so much better I want that too

I can see that one I posted (the 4600) going higher than that, but gonna keep an eye an it anyway.....

Now go to your other post
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