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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Default New AP's 362x32 fitted. when do they perform?

bedding them in at the mo, so just light braking.
but i expected to have that enormous stopping power
feeling with even the lightest of pedal push?
or will they just come good when bed in?
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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You say AP but your pict says Brembo .

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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
You say AP but your pict says Brembo .

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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
You say AP but your pict says Brembo .

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ok the disc's
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
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You say AP but your pict says Brembo .

Mark
ok the disc's
Are you sure as the grooves on the discs arent from any AP I have seen,
Normaly I recommend 200miles carefull driving before testing them but this also depends on the pads on how they are meant to be beaded in.

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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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I would of thought the pads were the main thing causing a crap feel on the pedal.

Aren't they a bit of a overkill on a 300hp chavalier
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
I would of thought the pads were the main thing causing a crap feel on the pedal.

Aren't they a bit of a overkill on a 300hp chavalier
300! i'm surprised you can see what your typing
with your head in a bucket of sand
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Originally Posted by leecavturbo
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You say AP but your pict says Brembo .

Mark
ok the disc's
Are you sure as the grooves on the discs arent from any AP I have seen,
Normaly I recommend 200miles carefull driving before testing them but this also depends on the pads on how they are meant to be beaded in.

Mark
there 110% AP
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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Ap dont make discs
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Ap dont make discs
well gen me up then? cus these came in ap boxes sealed and have ap part no@s on?
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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well this is gonna be an interesting thread

what are the calipers off?
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
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I would of thought the pads were the main thing causing a crap feel on the pedal.

Aren't they a bit of a overkill on a 300hp chavalier
300! i'm surprised you can see what your typing
with your head in a bucket of sand
I see you just changed your siggy
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Ap dont make discs
well gen me up then? cus these came in ap boxes sealed and have ap part no@s on?
If AP dont make discs then why is it that they are the only people to supply them for the Lotus Carlton
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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gen ?

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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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I have a dozen of those boxes mate so I am quite sure AP DO make discs.

As AP do brake kits I'd be suprised if they use someone elses discs in their package
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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i thought AP only had about 8 grooves on them.

why have they changed them,or made different types.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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@ your sig

There is no H in Jonny either
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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I spoke to AP about getting discs for mine and they said they only make the calipers and then put me in touch with a company called BG developments who make the kits up for each car.
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Mike Rainbird has supplied my mate with AP discs for his 3 door several times.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
I spoke to AP about getting discs for mine and they said they only make the calipers and then put me in touch with a company called BG developments who make the kits up for each car.
thats for brackets etc i would imagine. but AP manufacture discs and calipers ????
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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http://www.apracing.com/car/brakedisc/index.htm
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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I could be wrong
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
http://www.apracing.com/car/brakedisc/index.htm
you forgot the 's for euan
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Ill take them on the chin chop
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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They are ap disks but the calipers are Brembos ment for a Jaguar as it the same kit as ive just got from Reyland.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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I found that when i went from 4pot 330mm APs
to 6 pot 355mm APs they did have less bite and feel softer in use
but they worked well when hit hard
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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what pads are you running? also is the master cylinder man enough only ask because i know little about vauxhalls!
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Crowder
what pads are you running? also is the master cylinder man enough only ask because i know little about vauxhalls!
ds2500 iirc the number!
master cylinder i have no idea! maybe marco could gen us up?
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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I had no problem with my Ferodo 2500's

Are you using the OE Master Cylinder ?
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
I had no problem with my Ferodo 2500's

Are you using the OE Master Cylinder ?
yeah y, summat i need to know?
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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leecavturbo
If you want to get ultra sharp braking just touching the pedal then you need to fit a bigger master cylinder. This will push more fluid pressure down the brake lines for a smaller movement of the pedal.

Fitting bigger brake calipers often reduces the sharpness of the pedal as they have a bigger piston area and therefore takes more fluid pressure to push the pistons into the pads etc. Therefore fitting a bigger master cylinder will compensate for this.

But for a track car it is good to have a weaker setup to allow for more modulation on the brake pedal (depending on driver preference)

Also pads can affect it of course, but you have DS2500's and they are good!
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
I had no problem with my Ferodo 2500's

Are you using the OE Master Cylinder ?
yeah y, summat i need to know?
As above mate, its important to get the right MC if possible.

I left mine alone on the nova but have have recently tried a astra 16v cylinder to improve the feel of the pedal.

Not sure how well its worked yet as the car hasn't been used
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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my ap 6 pot 330's on ferrodo 3000 pads made the back end all floaty on serious stopping time to wind up the front suspension after that
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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well i thought then kind of discs have to be hot to really work good?
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