Just been talking to a friend with a mitsubishi gto, currently undergoing an engine rebuild, he's reckoning on 500ish bhp, i get the impression he thinks he's going to kick my ass, i have a 2wd saff, long studded 200 block, 7.3:1 comp, lightened/balanced bottom end, wrc h/gasket, tt t38, greys, rs500 intercooler/turbo cooler, peaks at 30psi, somewhere over the 400bhp mark? surely my car will beat his barge, even if its in a staight line?

What do you reckon?

 

fuck knows, but feel free to get some pics of your car up as it sounds a beast

and some of the GTO

 

power to weight + traction will decide the issue

had a blast on a private road a couple of weeks ago lambo porshe m3

and me in the saph

lambo won m3 and porshe could not keep up

pulled up at lights and the m3 is behind me the guy gets out

i rolled down the window thinking here we go

he says u should get your car checked as it was popping flames all the way said thanks mate and blasted off

 

GTO's are very heavy, I don't think you will have any problems, particularly at higher speeds.
tabetha

 

the saff wont have an issue with it mate,the gto is a sloppy barge that wants to be a super car but is far to over weight and underpowered even at 500bhp.

 

Don't forget too that jap cars have smaller horses.
It is amazing just how slow the japs can make a car with the power sometimes.
tabetha

 

i know its hailed as the "lazy mans super car" and round the twistys it will probably leave you... but it is a mahoosive car...

 

I wouldn't waste my time racing it, a stage 3 will probablys spin it round in circles.

 

I remember thinking that the GTO's might do something special at TOTB the first year it was run. They were shit at sprinting and handling, but maybe they would do well at Top Speed??

Yeah, right, not one went faster than my RST, which at the time had only just broken the 150mph barrier.

 

IF (and its a BIG IF) he makes a genuine 500bhp, he will absolutely walk away from your saph, especially at higher speeds.

Up the quarter you might have him if the rear beam setup on yours is half decent, but on a motorway you wont even be near him.

Reality is though, I bet his will not be 500bhp!

 

What he said .

The GTOs are a pile of wank . They'd need 1,000bhp to feel fast . VERY, VERY heavy, and you couldn't GIVE me one (well you could, but I'd sell it straight away ).

There were alleged 500bhp ones at previous TOTBs doing 13-14s quarters .

 

Thanks everyone, it should make for an interesting duel either way, if he ever finishes it that is!

Some of mine, cant get pics of the gto because its in bits in his garage at the mo!

 

Looks mate

 

tidy looking sapph mate and good spec
and as above dont think youll have a problem

 

Don't know if you've reealised but they's a wierdo of a lass in your top pic

It looks like she's licking the window

 

cant belive it has not been asked as yet






















get some pics up of the girl in the car


i would have thought even though the gto is heavy 1600 kgs ish
that it would be a good race. whats a saph, about 1300???

carl

 

the saffy should kill it imo

 

GTO's weight around 1800KG

 

Weight 3769 lbs | 1709.6 kg

 

That's the manufacturer's quoted weight, which is usually dry (no water / oil / fuel). There was mildly modified one recently put on the scales at a "big power" evening at Snetterton and it was 1800 and something .

 

Ok, here she is with her golf cabby.

This is her with her other Mk1 whichis soon to be running a 20vT and possibly 4wd

and her second fav hobby after her golf's.......

 

I know they are dressed differently than that, for pole dancing, PICCIES NEEDED PLEASE!!
tabetha

 

class

 

are flames bad then? my mate says mine pops little flames regularly when were racing(hes always behind me as he has a type r) should i have it checked out?
nice feature in the livingroom there sapph1

 

GTO's are quick indeed! but my mates 550brake 3dr killed one rolling! then when the poor sod (chinky) catched back up because we proper left him behind he was shouting out the window... I HAD NO MORE POWER! I HAD NO MORE POWER!.... DAMN THATS QUICK! he go's

 

Power to weight the 400 Saff is 300bhp/ton the 500 GTO 285 so unless the GTO has dramatically better aerodymatics I cant see it beating the Saff even at the Topend. It wont be the walkover most are suggesting though. A 500 Saff would walk on its grave im sure.
Rod

 

i'm not having a go at other cars...............but higher powered jap cars just dont go as well as cossies..............my pal has a 360/360 scooby and my(back then) 357/340 saff walked away from it.....easy.....and the other week 420/380 4x4 saff had the better of a 470/380 supra......long live the old taxi................

 

A rwd Cossie will have around a 30bhp transmission advantage cos the Scoob is 4X4 in a straight line throw in those Dodgy things called bends & a Scoob will pull it back.
Please dont confuse what you think you are beating on the road with actual timing during a competition when both drivers are trying equally. Thats when the truth hurts im afraid.

 

To be honest, i wouldnt mind if i lost to him, at the end of the day he has nearly a litre capacity and 2 cylinders on me.

Would be great to beat him though! lol

 

sapph1

if you've got over 400bhp and asuming your mate with the gto is not gona get 500bhp you'll have no probs hands down.

 

...........my car is 4x4......and not eveyone lives brunters.............i drive in the real world.....

 

Having looked into recently transmission losses it is amazing just how much a 4x4 set up can consume some over 100BHP, and 2wd were around 45/50 on average.
tabetha

 

Chris would be too scared to race u anyway babe so i wouldnt worry about it!

 

i beat a gto with my aerodynamically challenged housebrick of an estate. mr smug old medallion man was looking in his rear view mirror as i came up behind him and i seen him grin as he put his foot down. he eventually pulled onto the inside lane to let me cruise past noticing that his grin had changed to surprised frown.obviously just a standard 276bhp twin turbo but a hell of a big car with lots of weight slowing it down

 

Tuned Maestro turbo would kick ur ass
observe

 

assuming that scooby was standard ,there wasnt that much in it so even my old estate would kick the maestro's arse. anything tuned to a higher level will obviously beat a more standard car. compare like for like then see what happens