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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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2WD saff and i have a very rusty fuel tank... it goes for MOT on friday morn.. i desperatly need a new one..

anyone know where is best.. tomorw maybe??
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:38 AM
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All i can say is just make sure it is for a Cosworth and has the swirl pot inside. Don't be fitting any old shit
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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ive been doing some searching and i can use any saphire inj tank as they are all the same..

i have found a pattern one for 48 quid next day delivery
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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No you can't ! Has to be a cosworth one for sure. A wrong tank in a Cossie can kill your engine. Trust me i know
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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i asked the chap on the phone... the same tank is listed for a cosworth aswell...
so whats the difference if any??


both tanks have swirl systems in and anti surge baffles.
both tanks have the same size outlet to the fuel pump.

whats the difference??
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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when u find out for defo....please post....cos i need one aswell.... ...a lot cheaper than ford prices......
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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My tank rusted through and I lost a shit load of v power bought a new one from ford it was a lot of money but reading whats said above I hope the fuck they supplied me with the real mcoy



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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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No you can't ! Has to be a cosworth one for sure. A wrong tank in a Cossie can kill your engine. Trust me i know
out of interest, what wouldve caused it?

I replaced mine last yr, none ford, and engine dies. Coincidence i hope!
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Johnno has gave some spot on advice there!

I had a complete fuckin mission changing mine! Someone sold me one off here which looked nice but the return was blocked so was scrap and a waste of 50quid.... Another one wasn't even a cossie one

Then luckily i managed to get one of A.K.A (Paul) and it has been spot on!

DO NOT BUY A PATTERN ONE AS THEY ARE SHITE! They do not come with a swirl pot inside and will make the car miss and splutter when cornering hard with less then 1/4 full tank.

It's a complete wanker of a job changing one. Remember to purchase all tthe bolts/washer and the tank strap before you even attempt to change it! If the tank has not been off the car beofre i guarentee the bolts and clips will break and you'll end up cutting the tank off the car.....

The prices and part numbers are relisted below (not sure f they the same for 2wd)

Sierra Sapphire Cosworth (4WD)-Fuel Tank Strap
Part Number: 6161282
Retail Price: Ł15.32
You Pay: Ł13.79
Sierra Sapphire Cosworth (4WD)-Fuel Tank Strap Bolt
Part Number: 6185430
Retail Price: .85p
You Pay: .77p
Sierra Sapphire Cosworth (4WD)-Fuel Tank Strap Washer
Part Number: 1523201
Retail Price: .22p
You Pay: .20p

I got them all from www.fordpartsuk.com

Would recommend them to anyone.


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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Smit
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DO NOT BUY A PATTERN ONE AS THEY ARE SHITE!
Have to disagee sorry

Pattern part on mine and had no problems

Cosworth fuel pump is gravity fed,so don't need a swirl pot

Not sure if standard ford tanks had them,anyone got a old gen one they want to cut open and take some pics??????

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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I binned one last week
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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right, just to clear this up... been on the phone to my dad (ford engineer) who spent a bit of time looking this up for me..

the tank in the cossie 2wd saff IS the same as ALL the inj saff models and the xr4i. the original FINIS code is the same through the range.
there is no difference whatsovever... and its 130 quid.

new tank will be in tomorow. cost me 51 quid
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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use a genuine ford fuel tank only
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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CosKev3

im with smit on this one...

my car cos 4x4 has the wrong tank on it no swirl pot."bought in haste by the last owner"...

he advised to keep the tank half-full to stop any problems..

ive been wanting to change it for a while. its just finding the time
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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the tank in the cossie 2wd saff IS the same as ALL the inj saff models and the xr4i
I'm sorry to say you are wrong! The the GLSi models use an internal fuel pump and not external so you won't get a return and feed pipe coming out of the tank! So your dad on this topic is unforunately wrong...I Hope he's ordered the right one for you....

Kev - I used my pattern one for a week and did some hard driving... It cause monsterous amounts of problems with spluttering and cutting the engine out when giving it the boot round corners... So i'm sticking my my decision so where is your evidence

Changed to a genuine one and it sorted the problem. Ford tanks ones HAVE got an internal swirl pot.. When you take the sender out you can see it as it's bright yellow in the right bottom corner!

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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Smit
Kev - I used my pattern one for a week and did some hard driving... It cause monsterous amounts of problems with spluttering and cutting the engine out when giving it the boot round corners... So i'm sticking my my decision so where is your evidence

Changed to a genuine one and it sorted the problem. Ford tanks ones HAVE got an internal swirl pot.. When you take the sender out you can see it as it's bright yellow in the right bottom corner!

Pattern part on mine with no probs

I don't run it down into the red though very often,not tight like that!!!!!

Perhaps some pattern part tanks have baffles like standard tank

Your right about the different types of tank though,there are 2 sizes of hole on the top of them,internal pump type have the big hole,cosworth has the small hole just for fuel gauge sender
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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I didn't have the chance to top up as i was running out of fuel in the middle of a forest

I hope his dad has ordered the right one, fingers crossed...

Am i'm not tight, so shut it...
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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would fookin' help if fordpartsuk actually had a fuel tank.............
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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ive used 3 pattern tanks now on my cars

and never had a problem

i got them off tricky

all have swirl pots in aswell

as this is where the sender sits in aswell

never had a problem going round corners when low on fuel either

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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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I didn't know Tricky's have pots in... I'm just warning people off the the cheaper ones don't!

Like the ones listed for 50quid. LOL

And the swirl pot is in the corner of the tank where the return and feed is....It's not under where the sender sits....
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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I've just gone outside and taken a picture of my old genuine tank's swirl pot..

Please pay NO attention to the rust as it's been sitting there in our back garden for fuckin weeks!



You can see the feed and return going into the pot.. Without this in a tank the fuel would just slosh around.. So if running low might not pick enough fuel up if corning hard......

The pot would be filled with fuel and not suck air thorugh the pump (Only maybe if going round is circles for 15mins LOL )

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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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thats how mine is

feed and return go int that pot

though being plastic in mine

and the sender sits in there aswell
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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the tank in the cossie 2wd saff IS the same as ALL the inj saff models and the xr4i
I'm sorry to say you are wrong! The the GLSi models use an internal fuel pump and not external so you won't get a return and feed pipe coming out of the tank! So your dad on this topic is unforunately wrong...I Hope he's ordered the right one for you....

Kev - I used my pattern one for a week and did some hard driving... It cause monsterous amounts of problems with spluttering and cutting the engine out when giving it the boot round corners... So i'm sticking my my decision so where is your evidence

Changed to a genuine one and it sorted the problem. Ford tanks ones HAVE got an internal swirl pot.. When you take the sender out you can see it as it's bright yellow in the right bottom corner!

i phoned to check again today and they definatley have the same finis code.. 100%
looks like this maybe another ford fuck up then

now the non injection models have a low-pressure pump in the tank and they use this tank for the dohc 8v carbed engine.

but it doesnt list this tank for a dohc 8v glsi... it lists the same number as the cossie one.

ford bullshit again .....

now ford havent got any niether do fordpartsuk.....

so have had to buy a good pattern one.. which DOES have a swirl pot...
so i hope its a good one... or im fookerd
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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As said above maybe tricky could help....

http://www.internetautospares.co.uk/...roducts_id=535

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Any luck then Lee? Did you get the right one...
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