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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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which team has the LOYALIST and devoted fans in the game

i mean the team who has REAL fans and not the glory hounds

i know man u have a big following but which team is followed with there fans traveling all over the place to watch them and even other countrys every season ect

my old man is a big arsenal fan but its his local team,, he goes away games too but not smaller games ect if that makes sence

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oh btw i know fuck all abolut the game but where i hae started work its like football is there religion with 2 guys going athens and the regular jokes with man u like AIM,,, almost in athens ect


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liverpool and newcastle mate
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Torquay & Plymouth etc, they must travel 20000miles a year easy, Barnsleys pretty central and we travelled over 6000 miles this season too games away.
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thats who i was thinking, liverpool have fans all over for some reason and they are actual fans and newcastle cause,,, well theres fuck all else to do up there i guess
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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Man City I would say,
Poverty Division 2 (or 3 in real sense) still getting capacity attendances,
And away tickets are harder to get hold of than homes.
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2 barnsley fans at away games dont count
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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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every team in the land will claim to have the best most loyal fans who will all claim to have supported their team week in week out ,even through their darkest days . i mean look at rangers. about 50000 fans attend home games and they will all claim to have been at every game in the 80's before they started winning things even though the attendances then were only about 5000 .its easy to support a team that wins all the time. its the supporters of the diddy teams that rarely win anything that are the real most loyal supporters imo.and the glory hunters that have a local big team yet choose to 'support' one of the winning teams from another city are the worst. edinburgh's full of rangers and celtic supporters when we have 2 decent teams of our own. (well 1 decent team and then theres hibs )supporters of my team ,Hearts fc, like me,have travelled to see them get humped all over europe. occasionally we get a good result and its like winning the world cup.it means more because it doesnt happen so often.big teams are like, "woopee weve won the league again,great, whats on the tv luv?"
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Taken by me last Tuesday night at my church .........the pic answers your question, without a doubt REAL fans, LOYAL fans & THE BEST fans in the world


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Originally Posted by redrsmk5
Taken by me last Tuesday night at my church .........the pic answers your question, without a doubt REAL fans, LOYAL fans & THE BEST fans in the world


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and how many of these real loyal fans do you think would turn up on a wet wednesday night to play doncaster?
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Taken by me last Tuesday night at my church .........the pic answers your question, without a doubt REAL fans, LOYAL fans & THE BEST fans in the world


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and how many of these real loyal fans do you think would turn up on a wet wednesday night to play doncaster?
If it was Doncaster belles.........all of them
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Im a villa fan and must say whenever liverpool or man utd
come to villa park the passion they show for there teams
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Newcastle


Supported them thru thick and thin
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Liverpool without a doubt...
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Liverpool without a doubt...
Definitely...
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Old May 9, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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newcastle because we aint won bugger all and the fans still follow em around the world.
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Originally Posted by redrsmk5
Taken by me last Tuesday night at my church .........the pic answers your question, without a doubt REAL fans, LOYAL fans & THE BEST fans in the world


Martin
Yeah when there not slashing fans, pissing on them, or bricking bus windows.

And Lynn before u say it i know every team has its yobs
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and tbh newcastle, they havnt won nothing for years, but that doesnt stop them following them all over, and selling out st james's. a couple of my best mates are newcastle fans, never miss a game, home away, league, cup, europe, doesnt matter, if newcastle are playing, they are going, they have spent tens of thousands, litterally, in the last 10 years that ive known them, and as said, for nothing apart from the love of the club, so newcastle have to be up there with the best of them.
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Liverpool are to football what the Tifosi are to Ferrari in F1.
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so what pool fans are going athens on here then ?
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
Originally Posted by redrsmk5
Taken by me last Tuesday night at my church .........the pic answers your question, without a doubt REAL fans, LOYAL fans & THE BEST fans in the world


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and how many of these real loyal fans do you think would turn up on a wet wednesday night to play doncaster?

Oi

I go up to Hearts every so often now a few lads up there.
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motherwell fans we never win but still go back
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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:48 AM
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gotta be newcastle fans because the majority of them are actually from newcastle unlike man utd and liverpool and their army of plastic fans
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Thing is if Liverpool some how went down to the second division ( not likey I know) would they still have so many fans? Newcastle defo would. And for the record I support Sunderland so not taking the horrible cunts side

Btw we've got pretty loyal fans
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
so what pool fans are going athens on here then ?
Ones that attended ALL 7 CL rounds!

UEFA have given LFC less than 17,000 tickets and LFC has 35k plus season ticket holders, so it's going to a ballot.
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All you N*wcastle lovers are nuts. Look down the road for loyal fans! Sunderland regularly have 3rd and 4th highest attendance in the country, take one of the largest away crowds to games (midweek included), regularly get relegated and we havent won any MAJOR trophy since 1973!!

Remember befor Keegan when St Jokers Park was less than half fulland Ossie Ardiles was the gaffer, you deserted your team big style and only came back when the glory(?) days arrived.

Oh, and before anyone comments, this hasnt just happened this year since Mr Keanes arrival, we were getting good support even when Howard Wilkinson was in charge!
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Agree with Fuzzy.

There's a difference between going to a big game on your doorstep and driving hundreds of miles to play Inverness and Stranraer on a cold wet December night.

That seperates the loyal fans from the glory hunters.

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Its not hard to be a loyal fan when your team is doing well. Its when your team is in the shit you really see what your support is like. Take Leeds, Sheff Wednesday & Forest - where are their 30,000+ a week attendences gone now?

Fans that most impressed me are Man City, we played them in League 1 (was Div 2 then) at Maine road and the attendence that night was 32,000! Not many so called "big clubs" would manage that vs Luton lol.

I concider myself to be a "real" fan, supporting my team home and away and had a season ticket for the passed 9 seasons - in 3 different leagues.

I feel sorry for Man U, liverpool & chelsea fans etc. Do they really appreciate sucess as much as lower league fans? I doubt it.
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Originally Posted by diesel2000
All you N*wcastle lovers are nuts. Look down the road for loyal fans! Sunderland regularly have 3rd and 4th highest attendance in the country, take one of the largest away crowds to games (midweek included), regularly get relegated and we havent won any MAJOR trophy since 1973!!

Remember befor Keegan when St Jokers Park was less than half fulland Ossie Ardiles was the gaffer, you deserted your team big style and only came back when the glory(?) days arrived.

Oh, and before anyone comments, this hasnt just happened this year since Mr Keanes arrival, we were getting good support even when Howard Wilkinson was in charge!
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Old May 10, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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As much as it kills me to say it, you have to include the Celtic fans up there. They travel in massive numbers all over the place. Every English Premiership club wants to play them in testimonials as they will always bring a huge support.

When Celtic got through to the UEFA Cup Final in Seville a few years ago, they reckon that nearly 100,000 fans travelled. A massive 2% of total worldwide air travel that day.

Agree with the shouts for Man City also, the average crowds that they kept were outstanding.

But I would say fans of wee teams that never win anything are most loyal, they don't take things for granted and all they wish for is 1 day of glory in the sun. I'm a Motherwell Fan and I got that day in 1991 when we won the Scottish Cup, god knows when it will happen again.

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Originally Posted by DanS
Its not hard to be a loyal fan when your team is doing well. Its when your team is in the shit you really see what your support is like. Take Leeds, Sheff Wednesday & Forest - where are their 30,000+ a week attendences gone now?
thats a good point to make but you have to take into account the ticket prices too. when leeds went down from the premiership the ticket prices stayed the same Ł30-Ł40 a ticket for championship football ( and those tickets stayed the same price until march this year. now leeds averaged about 20,000 a game this season and i think that is a fairly good attendance considering the price. would you pay Ł30 to go see your team against (not trying to disrepect any fans of these clubs) teams such as southend or luton etc.... i personally wouldnt pay that sort of money to watch anyone in the championship as its shite football. its a very hard league to get out of as its very negative football.im sure it was the same with other teams too.

but i agree with the point that you lose attendance when your team is doing shit. look at wigan this season. i see there game the other week on MOTD and the ground was half empty. but when they was leading the championship and last season when they were playing well they had full houses.

i would say its very hard to judge who is the most loyal set of fans in the country as there are so many teams with great support. and supporters of lower league clubs will more than likely support one of the "big" clubs too (as they win stuff) i will support leeds till i die whether thats good for my health or not LOL but i will have a soft spot for man city as i spent 3 years there as a kid and i thoroughly enjoyed my time there and havent a bad word to say against the club or its support.
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i am a true leeds fan never mind were they are now they will come back to the top one day and i will be there to see it
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Every away game Liverpool plays, tickets are always sold out for the away end.
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All you N*wcastle lovers are nuts. Look down the road for loyal fans! Sunderland regularly have 3rd and 4th highest attendance in the country, take one of the largest away crowds to games (midweek included), regularly get relegated and we havent won any MAJOR trophy since 1973!!

Remember befor Keegan when St Jokers Park was less than half fulland Ossie Ardiles was the gaffer, you deserted your team big style and only came back when the glory(?) days arrived.

Oh, and before anyone comments, this hasnt just happened this year since Mr Keanes arrival, we were getting good support even when Howard Wilkinson was in charge!
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You must get to all the games living so close to Newcastle do you?
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All you N*wcastle lovers are nuts. Look down the road for loyal fans! Sunderland regularly have 3rd and 4th highest attendance in the country, take one of the largest away crowds to games (midweek included), regularly get relegated and we havent won any MAJOR trophy since 1973!!

Remember befor Keegan when St Jokers Park was less than half fulland Ossie Ardiles was the gaffer, you deserted your team big style and only came back when the glory(?) days arrived.

Oh, and before anyone comments, this hasnt just happened this year since Mr Keanes arrival, we were getting good support even when Howard Wilkinson was in charge!
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Get back to the Stadium of Shite Mackem
You must get to all the games living so close to Newcastle do you?
Since moving to Surrey from North East unfortunatly i dont But then when i lived up there i went to as many matches as i could.
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All you N*wcastle lovers are nuts. Look down the road for loyal fans! Sunderland regularly have 3rd and 4th highest attendance in the country, take one of the largest away crowds to games (midweek included), regularly get relegated and we havent won any MAJOR trophy since 1973!!

Remember befor Keegan when St Jokers Park was less than half fulland Ossie Ardiles was the gaffer, you deserted your team big style and only came back when the glory(?) days arrived.

Oh, and before anyone comments, this hasnt just happened this year since Mr Keanes arrival, we were getting good support even when Howard Wilkinson was in charge!
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Get back to the Stadium of Shite Mackem
You must get to all the games living so close to Newcastle do you?
Since moving to Surrey from North East unfortunatly i dont But then when i lived up there i went to as many matches as i could.
So you will remember the good old Ardiles days. Do you remember Freddy Shepard taking seats off 'The Best Fans In The Country' to rehome them way up in the clouds only so he could give their old seats to Corporate Hospitality? Or do you remember Douglas Hall bragging about all Newcastle women being 'Dogs' when he was shagging hookers in Thailand, or even when he bragged about blatantly ripping off NUFC Shirt buyers as they only cost Ł10 tp make (also heard in the Brothel by a newspaper). Do you remember when NUFC threatened to relocate to GATESHEAD if the council didnt allow them to build on Leazes Park?

The club does have some very loyal fans, im not denying it, but the best in the country they certainly arent!

The whole club is rotten to the core!
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You are a extremly bitter mackem aint you
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You are a extremly bitter mackem aint you
Nah, just one that knows the facts!

And for the record, the best fans I have ever witnessed were Liverpool when they invaded Sunderland. No bother, friendly and good banter
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
every team in the land will claim to have the best most loyal fans who will all claim to have supported their team week in week out ,even through their darkest days . i mean look at rangers. about 50000 fans attend home games and they will all claim to have been at every game in the 80's before they started winning things even though the attendances then were only about 5000 .its easy to support a team that wins all the time. its the supporters of the diddy teams that rarely win anything that are the real most loyal supporters imo.and the glory hunters that have a local big team yet choose to 'support' one of the winning teams from another city are the worst. edinburgh's full of rangers and celtic supporters when we have 2 decent teams of our own. (well 1 decent team and then theres hibs )supporters of my team ,Hearts fc, like me,have travelled to see them get humped all over europe. occasionally we get a good result and its like winning the world cup.it means more because it doesnt happen so often.big teams are like, "woopee weve won the league again,great, whats on the tv luv?"
Seeing as you Jambo's have been brainwashed for the last two years by Mad Vlad not alot of people will listen to a Hearts fans thoughts on football mate.

Ps,when you talk about fans jumping on the winning band wagon etc,does that include all the clowns that jumped on the Romanov/Hearts band wagon last season that thought we are going to win the league(remember all the ''we are unbeatable'' etc etc etc,although am sure Edinburgh's real force stopped that and put you's in your place
Is that the same fans that have vanished of the face of the earth this season due to the fact that Hearts have become nothing more than a laughing stock this season due to having the biggest clown of a chairman ever???
Don't worry they might re-appear in 8-10 years when you manage to win a Scottish or League cup in that measly time


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