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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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Hardly surprising considering there so shit at the sport
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Ahh they are being sold all the time. Most of em end up in the Eruo Boss series.

People with more money than sence who buy F1 cars for a giggle
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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In that case I wish I had more money than sense ...wait a minute I've got no sense nor money so I'm proper fecked
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Cosworth is being sold also

LONDON (Reuters) - Ford says its Jaguar Formula One team will pull out of the sport at the end of the 2004 season and its Cosworth engine company is also up for sale.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackage...ection=finance

Wonder if that puts an end to a Focus Cosworth etc then
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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i reckon they should throw the cash at the rally team win a world championship and build a Focus Cosworth
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me too.

all money spent in F1 is better off pissed up a wall - its shit.

give it to the WRC team
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i reckon they should throw the cash at the rally team win a world championship and build a Focus Cosworth
Erm selling Cosworth means they cant make a Focus Cosworth
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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From Turbosport

My mate works for Cosworth and I just spoke to him, he was told by his boss this morning.
http://forums.turbosport.co.uk/bbs/s...355#Post284371
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hope not
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quite sad to hear this as its a local team and imo they would get better given more time
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I didn't realise Ford OWNED Cosworth! I just thought they had an association with the company!

Learn something new everyday!
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i reckon they should throw the cash at the rally team win a world championship and build a Focus Cosworth
Erm selling Cosworth means they cant make a Focus Cosworth
WTF ??? possibly no WRC ?? which will defo kill off an RS projects most likely WTF they playing at
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
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i reckon they should throw the cash at the rally team win a world championship and build a Focus Cosworth
Erm selling Cosworth means they cant make a Focus Cosworth
WTF ??? possibly no WRC ?? which will defo kill off an RS projects most likely WTF they playing at
Kinda makes Ford setting up an internal Team RS make sense, they would need it for the road car development if they were getting shot of Cosworth.
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i reckon they should throw the cash at the rally team win a world championship and build a Focus Cosworth
Erm selling Cosworth means they cant make a Focus Cosworth
WTF ??? possibly no WRC ?? which will defo kill off an RS projects most likely WTF they playing at
Kinda makes Ford setting up an internal Team RS make sense, they would need it for the road car development if they were getting shot of Cosworth.
good point ps ur x pack looks familar dide u by it of off a dude from the RSBB sure i i was on a stand next to it 2 yrs ago at national day RSBB Stand it was the bloke had a few difference RS's a twin cam and a 500 i think
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So possability of no Focus Cos is high.

No wonder they are thinking of making the next RS 4x4
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Ford is not sure of its future in the WRC for next season either according to the rallying program on Eurosport and ITV
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With all the tuners on here, i reckon we could have a top WRC team, maybe we should all pitch in and buy Cosworth
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
good point ps ur x pack looks familar dide u by it of off a dude from the RSBB sure i i was on a stand next to it 2 yrs ago at national day RSBB Stand it was the bloke had a few difference RS's a twin cam and a 500 i think
Yes and no, I bought it from Guy who bought it from Dave but yes its the same car
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good point ps ur x pack looks familar dide u by it of off a dude from the RSBB sure i i was on a stand next to it 2 yrs ago at national day RSBB Stand it was the bloke had a few difference RS's a twin cam and a 500 i think
Yes and no, I bought it from Guy who bought it from Dave but yes its the same car
was his name RickB ??? by any chance ?? Nice motor mate
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
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good point ps ur x pack looks familar dide u by it of off a dude from the RSBB sure i i was on a stand next to it 2 yrs ago at national day RSBB Stand it was the bloke had a few difference RS's a twin cam and a 500 i think
Yes and no, I bought it from Guy who bought it from Dave but yes its the same car
was his name RickB ??? by any chance ?? Nice motor mate
No it was Guy Gmac on Turbosport,

Thanks its currently being restored so looks a little poorly at present.
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good point ps ur x pack looks familar dide u by it of off a dude from the RSBB sure i i was on a stand next to it 2 yrs ago at national day RSBB Stand it was the bloke had a few difference RS's a twin cam and a 500 i think
Yes and no, I bought it from Guy who bought it from Dave but yes its the same car
was his name RickB ??? by any chance ?? Nice motor mate
No it was Guy Gmac on Turbosport,

Thanks its currently being restored so looks a little poorly at present.
im sure RickB owned it for a while as well
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
im sure RickB owned it for a while as well
Was RickB not the guy who bought Dave's Cossied Tango RS2000 ? I will have to have a look back through the old V5s see who owned DDA in the past
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Cosworth is being sold also
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im sure RickB owned it for a while as well
Was RickB not the guy who bought Dave's Cossied Tango RS2000 ? I will have to have a look back through the old V5s see who owned DDA in the past
dunno ? I only met him once he was fecking huge but a nice chap
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it says they also fired 1000 people in Coventry who worked for Ford...

so that must involve some of the PF users ?
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Ford didnt own cosworth when they built the 3dr, saffs or escos so this would not stop a Focus Cosworth being built if another company owned it, that is unless it goes to another manufacturer which could put the blockers on it.
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Cosworth racing is up for sale. The removal of the Cosworht decal on the current WRC and the total lacking of any mention of it in Autocar whilst the Focus RS mk2 is being described only go to further confirm it'll not be made.

I run www.focuscosworth.co.uk so you can imagine how gutted I am about this.

For info: http://bbs.focuscosworth.co.uk/showflat.php?Number=2224
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This is why Malcolm Wilson returned home from Japan early in order to negociate a deal with Ford for next years WRC.

On a separate note, didn't Cosworth split before into Cosworth Technology or sumfin and Cosworth Racing. This won't be the end of Cosworth as if my memory serves me correctly, Cosworth Racing is now an idependant company, however im unsure of the future Ford will have with Cosworth and therefore the future of the Focus Cosworth, but TBH was it ever going to arrive?!
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Originally Posted by AGAR-COSWORTH
This is why Malcolm Wilson returned home from Japan early in order to negociate a deal with Ford for next years WRC.

On a separate note, didn't Cosworth split before into Cosworth Technology or sumfin and Cosworth Racing. This won't be the end of Cosworth as if my memory serves me correctly, Cosworth Racing is now an idependant company, however im unsure of the future Ford will have with Cosworth and therefore the future of the Focus Cosworth, but TBH was it ever going to arrive?!
Correct. Audi own Cosworth as well. Ford just owned the racing side. WRC 05 has been rocky for months now. And one of the Jag plants in Coventry will close.

As for someone saying WTF is Ford up to? Well theyve been in shit street since the Bridgestone tyre thing, and as a company arent making very much profit.
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someone beat me to it - the other cosworth is owned by the VW group
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There have been no Ford job losses and neither will there be - this all applies to Jaguar plants at Coventry. However, there are NO compulsory job losses there either, there will be early retirements offered, and the rest will more than likely transfer to the other plant a mere 16 miles away. This has been necessary for years as Jag have always had too many plants ever since Ford took over. The plant will become a museum.

As for a Focus Cosworth - i've hinted for a long time on various other boards that any Focus Cossie may wear a different badge. Ford and Cossie bosses haven't got on for years, so a Focus wearing a cossie badge was unlikely - that doesn't mean the car won't happen, it just means the badge could be different

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This has been necessary for years
Oh and the small matter of $362M loss in the second quater of this year
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Jag has had problems with that for a long time - yes that hasn't helped the plants case, but doesn't change the fact that it needed to go - profit or no profit.

Jag's main problem is due to the $/Ł exchange rate, as it's effecting the other premium European brands that rely on the US for a large portion of sales.

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Deffo end of the line for the Cosworth badged Fords then. RS Zetec or RS Duratec wouldn't have the same ring I'm afraid.
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well i must say I am absolutely gutted by the decision to pull Jaguar out of F1. I supported them from day one (cant be accused of glory hunting) and this is the first I have heard of this, even tho I am subscribed to their F1 forum.

I guess this must be the fact that next year they are going into the BTCC instead, which is some consilation for us Jag supporters.

Whilst Jag aint performing that well, lets all just remeber they was an ENGLISH firm bought by the USA....................
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I guess this must be the fact that next year they are going into the BTCC instead, which is some consilation for us Jag supporters.
Id be very surprised if they do that now.
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yes i suppose so, but after they released pics of car at motor show i got soo excited! Absolutely gutting....................
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I work for Jaguar Racing and was told this morning that the aim is to find a buyer who wants BOTH Jaguar Racing and Cosworth as a package.It has become apparent that Jaguar cars neither has had or would ever have the funds to put Jaguar racing on the podium Cosworth has suffered years of underfunding from Ford and it is also clear that Ford have no intention of rebranding the Team as FORD as they feel they have sufficient global awareness as it is !
In answer to the earlier post that Jaguar racing are "SHIT" i would say that if you knew the facts ,i.e what has been achieved especially in the last couple of years and with such a small budget you might not have made such a ill advised remark.
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