anyone know the gates part number for the group a spec cambelt?
cheers

 

Dont know the part number Ian but give Matt Lewis a PM as thats all he stocks

 

YBO200

Matt

 

how much delivered m8?
just need the actual gates number, think its 5248xs but not sure

 

YBO200 is the standard Cosworth belt from memory Matt.

 

Incidentaly Gates have never heard of the term 'Group A' - as far as they are concerned this is just the standard belt they manufacture for a Cossie.

(It also fits Citroen Diesels and a Peugeot from memory)

 

We have had the Cosworth Group A argument on here far far too many times, and in most cases sellers are missleading people (Intentionally or otherwise before people say its me digging at other traders) by selling them standard parts labelled as something better, or, in group a cases, something "Different"**.


** Group A, for the road, is NOT usually something better.

 

the gates cam belt which some people refer to as a group a is a little bit wider than the standard ford item iirc and is listed as an extended service belt for the pug/citreon diesel engines.

didn't want to start a debate on the term group a just wanted to see if someone could confirm the gates part number as this is what I want to purchase

 

to add gates make belts foy q&h to and people slate them to lol

 

No Need to get arsey.
Had the number given to you NOT been wrong, i dont think anyone else would have said anything and you would have had your answer. Job done.

Would you prefer to be left with the WRONG information so everyone who reads the topic is missinformed?

As A famous engine designer once said...
"Better to be un-informed than Ill-informed." cry:

 

i asked on here because I couldn't remember if that was the part number or not

 

someone is selling a gates 5248xs on ebay to fit a cosworth is this wrong or not?

 

Just checked the part number with Tracy at Cosworth who agrees with me but, as a double check has asked a fella in the spares department who actually gave the items to teh fitters back in teh day when these were new and were being put into the cars. He says it has always been teh same belt fitted and sold at Cosworth and they have never sold anything else. The Part number in question is YBO200 and has been for over 21years. It is even numbered as an old number to back this up...

For example...
The Belt Guide washer is a YB0198 and the belt pulley is a YB0197. Proving these numbers were designated right back when the engine was first designed at Cosworth around 1985.

My thoughts on this are simple... if Cosworth thought that was good enough for a cambelt, why use anything else?

The Gates 5248XS is allegedly exactly the same belt and ive fitted them for years and years.

 

its what I've used before & looks a lot more substantial than a standard ford belt
thanks for checking

 

The only other belt is the high temp belt done by gates for mountune....

Gate power grip HTD 58144 x 1" HSN is on the belts....

 

This is the belt supplied by Cosworth:

 

You gotta love good old England for things like this. Cosworth have catagorically stated to me they have not, EVER sold any belt other than the YB0200. Yet they personally sold Doug one without a Cosworth part number on it.

Someones on teh fiddle... ROFLOL

 

group A cars use the high temperature one,as ian has pointed out.

 

That one was purchased about two years ago, check with Julie or Lisa to confirm what they are supplying this week

 

To my knowledge, the "High Temperature aspect" of a Gates belt is defined by the HTD in teh name...

 

 

...i only ever used the Mountune hi temp belt

 

I dont like to disagree, but HTD means High Torque Drive....when applied to a synchronous belt, AFAIK the mountune belt has a different cord material, one used for higher engine bay tempertures experienced on the Grp'a' and wrc cars with ALS etc....

I have had some dealings with both the standard and mountune belts, even to the point of analysis with gates when we had 2 failures on rallies using the standard belts. We now dont use anything other than the mountune item.

That said under normal road even mild track conditions, the cosworth belt is quite adequate....in my opinion...

 

all this for a cam belt

 

then let ian educate you a little bit.

 

Excellent Info Ian. Love it, i thought i wasnt going to learn anything today and i am pleased to be wrong.

 

Agreed, theres no way the underbonnet temps on a road car would reach those of a full blown Rally Car with Als etc... and i personally have nevr had a Std belt break or even lose a tooth.

Ian, talking of World cars, when are we finishing the mapping on yours? Its been a while mate, you must be snowed under with Ł20 notes by now...

 

Stu,

As soon as I get a minute to get it back down....I cant drive it with so little boost as it is, so I'd best not get anymore power....

Ian

 

and when are you doing a rally down south, so i can pop along for a butchers

 

didnt think they rallied "down south".

 

we do a little bit in wales

 

That's West Any decent rally action in Wales at all Gareth

 

but im willing to travel clever clogs

ya sometimes there some nice action around here,, once a year this is anyway

 

do you buy the belt direct from mountune or is it a cheaper option?

 

BTTT

 

...i bought it from Mountune Gareth...bout Ł35 i think.

 

As phil says gareth....i bought 2 last week....cica Ł30 each + P & P from mountune.....

 

thats cool,,, ill sort one out next week for my banger