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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Default Water Injection for a track car yes or no

would it be a good idea to have a proper water injection set up for a track car? pro's and cons?

the car will be running say 190bhp plus 75bhp of NOS. it will have an intercooler spray sorted, but will a proper water injection set up be a good idea or just a waste on the car? as i dont want to install a kit if its really never gonna need to be used, as i wasnt sure if its really only comesin to its own on really high powered motors, if that makes sense
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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I remember asking a question on water injection a while ago.

I beleive stu's response was (and this is it in simple form)

"Water injection doesn't technically gain you power. Power is lost through excesive heat - but with water injection that loss is less"

So you dont gain power as such - you just lose less

correct me if i wrong though stu!
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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fuck it.....i'm getting it fitted!!!!!

sod putting water in it though!!
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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yeah cheers peeps, i know what its for etc, and realise you dont get extra power, but if really the system isnt really gonna get used or is a waste on that particular car then i may as well not bother, and get bigger nitrous jets

what about putting alcohol thru it
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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I'd say not if you have a decent front mounted intercooler
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Originally Posted by gurnE
I'd say not if you have a decent front mounted intercooler
got a 2wd cossie one sticking out the front getting lots of airflow, with waterspray if needed
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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what are you using for the intercooler spray?

is there a kit you can get or is something you are knocking together yourself?
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Originally Posted by Gra
yeah cheers peeps, i know what its for etc, and realise you dont get extra power, but if really the system isnt really gonna get used or is a waste on that particular car then i may as well not bother, and get bigger nitrous jets

what about putting alcohol thru it
METHANOL in mine!!!
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Henry
what are you using for the intercooler spray?

is there a kit you can get or is something you are knocking together yourself?
getting a kit from usa/japan and adapting it myself, so a bit of both really, if it comes off i will make sure i post on here tho
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yeah cheers peeps, i know what its for etc, and realise you dont get extra power, but if really the system isnt really gonna get used or is a waste on that particular car then i may as well not bother, and get bigger nitrous jets

what about putting alcohol thru it
METHANOL in mine!!!
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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yeah cheers peeps, i know what its for etc, and realise you dont get extra power, but if really the system isnt really gonna get used or is a waste on that particular car then i may as well not bother, and get bigger nitrous jets

what about putting alcohol thru it
METHANOL in mine!!!


unfortunatly...seeing that i have a list of things to do to the car...i will not be seeing you in february on the track!!!

car will be approx ready and rolling............2006 ( I shit you not)
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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my next car will have it, but only cos it will come with it

a good intercooler is all that is needed for a track car
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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keith whats gotta be done mate? you need a hand cos your welcome to pop over if i can help at all mate,
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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ERL actually state in the bumpf that comes with the kit that you should use a methanol based screen wash.

I have a very efficient front mount intercooler and despite low ACT's with the water injection on the car does seem to pull more cleanly.
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Originally Posted by Gra
keith whats gotta be done mate? you need a hand cos your welcome to pop over if i can help at all mate,
I will need a hand eventually mate will be on the blower for your help!!

but i got a list of things to buy and do as long as my arm and i want to do it properly!!!!
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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dont reply to my pm then
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DanS
dont reply to my pm then
?? i never got one mate
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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still not sure, oranoco says he notices the differnce so it must help then, hmmmm
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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if you running nitrous, dont bother...

...infact dont even bother with an intercooler ... do you know how cold that shit is! the lines frost over after you use it ffs! and it can give youa cold burn if it touches you!
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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Depends on what sort of ACTs you are getting . If you inject water into the inlet system when the ACTs are not suficiently high enough to vaporise the water in the heat exchange process, not only will you LOSE power, you will get bad misfires.

The water injection strategy should be based on boost AND ACT temps and should NOT be used other than to bolster the best intercooler set up you have - i.e. it should not be fitted until you have exhausted all your intercooling options first. So basically what I am saying is if you fit a good enough intercooler (which you can easily do with only 190bhp), WI will be completely redundant and would never activate on a boost / ACT strategy with a decent front mounted intercooler at 190bhp.
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Originally Posted by Gra
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dont reply to my pm then
?? i never got one mate
was aimed at gay boy not you mate
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DanS
Originally Posted by Gra
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dont reply to my pm then
?? i never got one mate
was aimed at gay boy not you mate
been busy mate...wil PM you later!!!! DUCKY!!
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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I ran a genuine 500 cooler, BUT my water injection ran almost constantly on track after 1 lap with my old MD240 Turbo...

SOOOO as mike said, it all depends on what ACTS you are getting!

I bet the WI will hardly ever come on with the GT35 though.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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I've just ordered my WI kit from aquamist, but mine is heading for australia I figure its gonna be needed a lot more than in the UK!

so how do you get it to operate using ACT's as well as boost?

does mikes ACT jobby provide for it?
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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UH,
Yes, it is an extra cost option though . It is then user programmable so that when it sees Xpsi (pressure switch with the Aquamist) AND your user defined ACT temps, only then will the WI fire up.
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sounds good, pm me the details please!
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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www.randbmotorsport.co.uk/shop

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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
www.randbmotorsport.co.uk/shop

yeah but it doesnt tell me how much it is for upgrade to control WI!

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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cheers Mike and porkie, top reply will leave it then and see what my ACTs are. providing i dont just sell the fooker for another cossie when its finished
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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mike thats a good site you got there, shame every second word is phone /email for prices, jsut put the dam prices on the site and maybe il buy somethin
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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UH,
£25 above the normal price.

BM,
I haven't got time to list every single product every single one of these companies does . There are about 1000 different items just for Safety Devices .
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