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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Default Bought a cossie. Can you drive it home without tax?

Just bought a 4x4 saph. It has got an MOT but no tax.

Anyone know the rules on driving it home if its SORN?

DVLA are shit and their helpline is just an automated service with recorded messages.


Also, any banks still open at this time on a Saturday as gotta draw out the rest of the cash?
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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legally no morally yes as no copper in the land will do you if you can show him am invoice you have just bought it plus you will be taxing it Monday so you will be paying for the whole month anyway
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Technically no but I wouldn't worry about it.

It would take a mean copper to report you if you have the paperwork to prove you just bought it and even if you do come across an asshole it's only a small fine and backdated tax from when you bought the vehicle.

Insurance is the important one
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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just drive very very fast....
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cool

liked the car then?

banks might not be open at this time in the afternoon tho
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Thats what I thought. Being a copper myself I won't do anyone but there are some t***ers out there. Been a long time since I was in uniform so couldn't remember the rules.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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isnt there some sort of "code of honour" where they won't do you if you show em ya warrant card?
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
just drive very very fast....


Sound advise
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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I wouldn't give 3 shites about driving it personally

You'll be lucky to get a bank though
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
isnt there some sort of "code of honour" where they won't do you if you show em ya warrant card?
secret handshake lol
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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isnt there some sort of "code of honour" where they won't do you if you show em ya warrant card?

Wish there was but there isn't much love lost between uniform (especially traffic) and detectives so might come unstuck with one.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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cool

liked the car then?
Yeah Jim, it was great. Wasn't expecting much to be honest as it was fairly cheap and first one i've looked at but the seller seemed a decent bloke and was in nice condition. No rust on body but a bit on underside but looked more like surface rust than anything structural (touch wood).

Had a drive and felt a lot quicker than my 24v but I think its probably about the same performance wise and just felt quicker due to the kick in the back. Its got a bayjoo stage one (he thought about 260bhp).

Its the first cossie i've driven and was really impressed
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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They can actually do you for it as it shouldnt be on the road. My mates been done for no tax a couple of times where he's gone over a couple of weeks by mistake and each time they just made him tax it and pay a Ł20 fine.

As long as its not more than a month out of tax, then you should be ok if you get pulled, as long as you tax it that month, so you pay for the whole month.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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a got caught doing this once and did get done but they can only make you back tax it from when u bought it so if u got caught you would tax it from start of january
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Thaks for the advice. Not gonna pick it up today as can't get the money out anyway now. Will risk it next week and then tax it at the start of feb
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thay can take the car of you if thay want to.

how many miles is it from where you want to take it to
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if the car is sorn off road and you are caught driving it, they can take the car and give you aŁ5000 fine and you ve still got to tax it and pay back the back duty on it, they will tell you, that you should have taxed it before you went to pick it up, its more serious if the car as been sorn off road than if you ve just not renewed the tax on it, and if its sorn you cant tax it until the logbook comes back in your name as you ve to take the log book in your name to tax it
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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get the owner to tax it for you before you go to collect it offer him the cash for the tax aswell
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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I got issued a fixed penalty notice for being 2 hours outside of tax

Had the new disc at home but went to a club so was back late. Got stopped and the rotten bastard did me for not displaying the disc
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sedan man
Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
isnt there some sort of "code of honour" where they won't do you if you show em ya warrant card?
secret handshake lol
like the stonecutters in the simpsons
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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It is not worth the hassle.

I got taken to court for road tax a few years ago (similar situation) and that was after I paid the fixed penalty for not displaying it.

You would get a fixed penalty for not displaying tax, then reported to DVLA, who will also fine you and backdate to last tax disc.

And if you have a bump, your insurance won't pay out as the car isn't road legal.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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I got stopped last week when i got by escort cos on the m6 copper just said get some tax asap and that had been run out for 4 months i just told him i had just brought it and he was fine still gave me a Ł30 fine for no seat belt thought
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Probably risk it to be honest as chances of being stopped are hopefully remote and should be able to talk my way out of it even if I do
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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if you do drive it without tax - check your insurance booklet first as one policy I had for my cossie stated that the car was not covered if it had no tax!
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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are you still keeping ther xr though
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
I got issued a fixed penalty notice for being 2 hours outside of tax

Had the new disc at home but went to a club so was back late. Got stopped and the rotten bastard did me for not displaying the disc
Thats well harsh

Steve.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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the traffic police are the ones to look out for as they come close to you . it comes up on their screen that your car is not taxed but the patrol cars as to do a spot check on you to find out your car isnt taxed, on the motorway the dvla have cars with cameras and as you go passed it says checking and then they pick up you ve got no tax and sent the fine in the post
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
legally no morally yes as no copper in the land will do you if you can show him am invoice you have just bought it plus you will be taxing it Monday so you will be paying for the whole month anyway
Pete, I bought a MK2 mexico a good few years ago for Ł1k (told you it was a while ago) and was driving it home. On the M6 it set on fire and we had to call the fire brigade. When they arrived the car was a burnt out wreck. The firemen were all sad to see such a lovely old car wrecked.

The policeman took my details and I told him i'd just bought it, I showed him the reciept and mot/log book etc. The cunt gave me a producer. I explained I was insured through work to drive any vehicle but I knew the tax was out.

The cunt hassled me at work AFTER I had produced the insurance saying I wasnt covered etc. Next thing I knew I had a summons for no tax (1 day)

I went to court with a solicitor I had paid for and pleaded guilty to 1 days tax evasion and was finded a grand total of Ł13.

So, moral of the story is to make sure you are taxed.

Would I drive a car I had just bought again with no tax? hell yeah. Would I drive a new car without a fire extinguisher, not on your nelly.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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are you still keeping ther xr though
Nah unfortunately I can't. The missus has a one car policy! Had it 6 years and had some great fun in it. I've given it to my brother (rather than sell it to a stranger for peanuts) as he is without a car at the moment.
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are you still keeping ther xr though
Nah unfortunately I can't. The missus has a one car policy! Had it 6 years and had some great fun in it. I've given it to my brother (rather than sell it to a stranger for peanuts) as he is without a car at the moment.
shame you carnt keep it aswell

but at least its still in teh family

bet your bro is well chuffed

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a local lad had his evo 7 taken of him last week as it didnt have road
tax on it
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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I would personally

But my company works very closely with Surrey police and i know them and Hants police are coming down very hard on untaxed vehicles, also uninsured drivers and drivers without a license.Not sure what the fine is but they will deffo take the car away and it should cost Ł105 no vat to get the car back not including fines and endorsements.

And they are very clever at catching people, they use vans and cars with cameras, probably unmarked half the time.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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Also, if you decide to tow it and the cossies wheels are on the road, then it has to be taxed.
I got caught towing a car that had no tax and was taken to court for it.

I can't see why you don't tax it before you pick it up, you may lose a little tax but it is better than the hassle and the fines.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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The problem is I won't be able to tax it until the log book comes back in my name (or can you tax it on the section you keep?) which could take ages.

Only other option is to try and pursued the previous owner to tax it for me and give him the cash.
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Originally Posted by Jimboxr4x4
Only other option is to try and pursued the previous owner to tax it for me and give him the cash.
By far the best idea mate - I had to do that on my silver xr2 when I bought it - otherwise it would be sitting about at their house for x weeks untill the DVLA sorted themselves out...
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take the log book with you when you go to tax it if not use the slip at the bottom or fill in a v10 form
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if its sorn off road, you need to take the logbook to tax the car and it as to be in your name, not the person who you are buying it off and not the green slip,
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tregmatt
if its sorn off road, you need to take the logbook to tax the car and it as to be in your name, not the person who you are buying it off and not the green slip,
since when has it been like that

i used to take the log book in with my new details on and thay would
tax it and send the log book them self, ive used a green slip to tax a
car before
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I've taxed 3 sorned cars with the green slip before and the last one wasnt that long ago
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green slip worked for me and the damn woman is a picky tit
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