Anybody bought the big disc conversion with the b4 calipers ( from comp brake ) for a sapph 4x4 cossie ?......... Are they any good ?

 

Make sure you get all the right bits in the kit.............

I heard they are a good product but the company are shit for getting the right stuff to you and support after you have bought it

 

I've bought it for my Series 2 - stuff looks well made and at a good price

 

Plenty off here run them even Petrucci runs the full front and rear kit

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...446455#3446455

Mind you I check them all over before sending to Pf members

 

agreed

 

I have had my kit fitted for over a year now & done a few trackdays,good value for money.


Simon.

 

I'd agree to a point too Tiff but there are more members of staff there now than this time 18 months ago.

Michael found that too until he realised he could get stuff cheaper than either dealing direct or buying off Ebay... then he posted this

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=238154

 

In that case i am glad to hear it as i heard that they are a very good kit....but that was the inderlaying problem

 

As per another post about which brakes to go for here:

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...asc&highlight=

I'll copy and paste my testimonial:

Comp Brakes on mine, front 330mm 4 pots, and rear 300mm bells and rotors on spaced out standard calipers.

Those that know me and my driving know the car gets used HARD all the time on track (when it works) and I swear by them.

Best prices also come from Tony (Of the NUTS RuS variety), and they are far cheaper than the 'obvious' brands and work just as well if not better IMHO.

IIRC Ł750 ish for the fronts, and Ł250 ish for the rears.

Si

 

I'd better put my prices up now then

 

i have 305mm rotors with a 9 hole fixing pattern, do you do these discs

 

Me ?

Whats the PCD of the fixing holes ?

Will either be 7.5" 8" or 8.5"

 

Bloody hell Tony ,,soon you will have sold enough sets to pay the traders fees on here

Im still waighting to see all the new comp brake stuff i was going to stock again

 

How do they compare to equilavent size from the AP range? 330 mm fronts?

 

I dont make a penny on anything Paul as im not a trader

Im more than happy to pass on a direct number, or ebay link to products on most threads

I fully understand what your thinking though and is something I have to be very careful of

Same with the MEF stuff - I always pass on a link to the Zoo site too.

I let people make a choice

 

Dont worry about Paul, Tony. Hes like an old woman

Can you answer my question?

 

Rich

Im not like an old woman ,,Just dont see the point AGAIN in me bothering with comp brake when people are selling there product cheaper than the dealers can

Tony ,
I know you do it to help people out and dont make a proffit ( it was a joke ) but you can see where im coming from ,,with e/bay and bedroom people its hardly worth trying to run a legit business these days

I will just forget about dealing with comp brake AGAIN,,

 

Compare in what way Rich - size ? 330mm

The question confused me TBH.

Paul if you take up trading them again I'll stop being a middleman and pass people on to you

They are available from places like www.tjmotorsport.co.uk etc who advertises on other Ford sites ( thats Tim and nothing to do with me BTW)

I do sometimes pass people onto him occasionally, but he cant beat their direct trade price as well you know

 

Paul,

Re-instate your sense of humour mate. I was joking hence the

 

Rich

I know you were but my point is still one i have to make

There product is very very good ,,If they get there customer service right then they will be a company everyone will know this year ( i am shure they will sort there issues )

I just wont be bothering dealing with them anymore

 

I agree and thats why i havent biught them for mine yet. Want to see how Tony thinks they compare to AP's

 

NUTS RuS

What i mean is, they are a damn sight cheaper to buy than AP's, but do they have the same braking performance? Sorry if i confused

 

Rich

I have had many cars fitted with AP"s and fitted a few sets of comp brake to cossies , and if i am totaly honest you wont notice anything between AP and comp brake

As i have always said , the product is very good , and the price is superb I just wish they would stick to ONE price for everyone

 

unfortunately paul that's the nature of the business you're in


as for comp brake, i dont have their brakes, but i had a set of adjustable front TCAs off them. was very impressed with the knowledge, customer care, and quality of the product

 

Now that does sound good. Cheers Paul

 

They dont have dust seals do they which might be a problem for a road car wouldnt it??????????

 

They have a s/steel dust plate mate and s/steel pistons , so dust getting in and corroding the pistons isnt an issue

I have never heard of any problems with any kit , and every kit i ever sold was for a road / track car

 

They have been independantly tested in Germany on a manufacturing rig and withstood the same pressure test as an AP caliper for the same length of time (if not longer)

Some of the others failed at much lower pressures (not naming names).

Thats how these things are tested in the real world.

There is a vast new range of calipers ready but maninly not being released until these tests have been completed.

AP have had a namehold on the market for years, If you can afford them then for sure buy them, but there are comparable products out there that will do a similar job at a lower price.

Remember the pad does most of the work if you put the same pad in some calipers IMHO you would not know the difference.

AP people with a pride for the name will disagree.

 

Well Put Tony

People Buy AP because of the name ,,Like designer clothes , they both keep you dry and warm its just one costs 3 times as much

 

Alps Pacino

As Paul said "dust seals" are actually for us termed "corrosion seals"

They are generally placed on a cast caliper with chrome plated pistons to stop rust and corrosion over a period of time.

If you have an alloy caliper and stainless steel piston there is nothing to rust or sieze over time so not strictly necesaary.

However because its difficult to get people to understand this some of the new bigger range (not yet released) have been fitted with rubber seals. They are totally pointless but will stop some of the associated stigmatisms of race calipers.

 

NUTS RuS

Now thats cleared up i think i'll be getting a set ordered up next month for my mk1 golf.

So can you get me a price on a set of the biggest brakes they do for 15" wheels and possibly ask if they do a rear conversion???????

O and i'm after a proper pedal box and everything else associated with the install if you can sorce these to.

Cheers

 

Ohhh rear conversions Now dont get me going, but whilst we are here and sharing a little knowledge then...

Compbrake do a rear caliper the "R2"

I can tell you that this is EXACTLY the same caliper that is fitted to most of the Audi range (The TT and TT Convertables for deffo)

If you walked into an Audi dealer they would cost you on average Ł186 each (maybe plus vat).

Exactly the same caliper with Compbrake milled on to the side will set you back around Ł65

How can the dealer justify selling the EXACT same thing for that price ??
Its because they do and people are willing to pay it.

Same as for AP's IMHO.

Anyway so as not to upset people can you email/phone them direct please details are on www.compbrake.co.uk and ask the technical questions yourself

If once your sorted and you need further help give me a shout

 

NUTS RuS

I understand

 

hi mate can you give me a price on a set of these brakes for a 4x4 saff thanks

 

I agree, I used to deal with compbrake on the pug stuff and was shifting a lot of gear for him over 5k a month, but then people could get them cheaper direct and blew my margins out. Then his ebay sites too, cant run a business that way.
Its just an amateurish outfit with a good quality product. If they were more professional and had distributers rather than any tom dick and harry selling from their bedroom with no contracts etc etc.

I developed a few products for the 106 and didnt get any exclusivity when i supplied the designs and ideas, he supplied everyone else!

 

For what they are, they are VERY well priced, but having seen the amount they flex compared to APs, I find it hard to believe some of the comments that have been posted.

On Churchy's car (Sapphire 4x4), you can actually see the caliper flexing as the pedal is pumped while the car is stationary. Although it doesn't seem to affect braking, it can't be a good thing if the car is to be used on track, and it would always be in the back of my mind.

Unless the design has changed, then you can see why they do this, as it is the way the two parts of the calliper are linked (just by four steel pins). Compare these to the APs or most other two piece callipers, and you can see where the extra rigidity is obtained on the APs.

Obviously as a budget improvement over the standard brakes, they are great, but if it was my money, instead of buying the full front and rear Comp kit, I would buy just the AP front 4-pot arrangement.

At the end of the day, you pay's ya money and ya makes ya choice.

 

Mike Rainbird

Ye but what sort of money are you looking at for a 4 pot set up from ap including bells rotors bake lines and brackets???????????

 

they may work ok.. but they don't 'alf look gypo!



AP all the way

 

Glad Mike mentioned the caliper flexing issue.

I got a set for a mates P1 and couldn't believe how much they flex, however they do work well but nothing near as good as a similar AP 330 setup.

Price though reflects that, I dont think their discs are that expensive too replace either unlike AP ones

 

Prices are on my website .