General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

one for the ICE gurus...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 12:18 PM
  #1  
Jim Galbally's Avatar
Jim Galbally
Thread Starter
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 20,599
Likes: 0
From: Ramsgate, Kent Drives: E39 530D Touring
Default one for the ICE gurus...

ok this new car has a decent stereo... and i know feck all about ICE so dunno how its supposed to be set up and it was a bit distorty when the bass was tuned up...

the car's got decent speakers all round, 6x9s i the shelf, 3 sets of tweeters etc. etc. n 2 12inch subs in the boot

its got 2 amps... some big philips one (6040 i think) most of the speakers (there are defo 2 speakers not amped up tho) and a little one powering the 2 subs and is 2 channel (i think its 100w one doin the subs)

the philips one has no adjustment on it so ive left that... but the little one doin the subs has gain (-2 to +2) crossover (on/off) and filter (high/low)

it was set up with gain +2, crossover off, filter high and the subs were facing the rear seats (was pushed up against the back too)

ive just changed it to: gain +2 (same) crossover on, filter low... also ive turned the subs around to theyre facing into the boot

is this right?

the sound is now more crisp, but i can barely hear the bass... its nowhere near as thumpy as it was unless you turn the bass right up on the headunit(which the normal speakers dont like too much)

is this right? should i put it back how it was? wahst the proper way of setting em up?
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 12:22 PM
  #2  
Ginge !'s Avatar
Ginge !
just finding my feet
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 41,052
Likes: 2
From: Im behind you
Default

jim ya ideally need a headunit that can control the xub channel seperate

next time i se ya il have a play, back in the old days iw as a bit into me stereo

what ya set ya gain too, rember dont set it all the way up as ya could blow te subs

oh and ya only want low bass for subs, ya not gonna hear treble through the boot as the wy the lines move, bass lines move slower and vibrate

ill have a look next time i see ya ( say this week when i collect me computer
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 12:24 PM
  #3  
Ginge !'s Avatar
Ginge !
just finding my feet
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 41,052
Likes: 2
From: Im behind you
Default

wwhat subs ya got too ??????


sound like ya need to just get it set up to balance when ya sitting in the drivers seat
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 12:25 PM
  #4  
Jim Galbally's Avatar
Jim Galbally
Thread Starter
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 20,599
Likes: 0
From: Ramsgate, Kent Drives: E39 530D Touring
Default

the headunit is sony jobby (quite old) dont think it has seperate sub channel (know wot u mean tho, my mtes pioneer has that)

its deffo got RF out tho as all the subs have RF connectors on the input side (6 today going in,but dunno how many of them are joined) i havent had the headunit out yet to look how its wired up there (but i know its wrong as the stereo stays on when you kill the ignition...
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 12:26 PM
  #5  
St3V3_C's Avatar
St3V3_C
PassionFord Post Whore!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 9,608
Likes: 45
From: Bristol
Default

Try changing the filter switch - you want it to be low pass or high cut - not sure what way round yours will be. It will be quite obvious which is the right way for that switch as you listen to it.
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 12:27 PM
  #6  
Ginge !'s Avatar
Ginge !
just finding my feet
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 41,052
Likes: 2
From: Im behind you
Default

thats not wrong

just means the red wire is joined to the direct feed for the batt too ( infact the sony loom allows ya to do that anyway

ill have a look and if ya need any stuff ill see what i got to improve it
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 12:39 PM
  #7  
Zetec Andy's Avatar
Zetec Andy
10K+ Poster!!
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,421
Likes: 0
From: Speed bump central
Default

Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
but i know its wrong as the stereo stays on when you kill the ignition...
Jim, on the older sony units there is i switch.

Slide the headunit out of the dash and and on the top of the unit there will be a swith, just switch ot over the other way and it should kill the stereo with the ignition.
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Aug 30, 2004 | 04:58 PM
  #8  
Jim Galbally's Avatar
Jim Galbally
Thread Starter
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 20,599
Likes: 0
From: Ramsgate, Kent Drives: E39 530D Touring
Default

the bloke wired both the red+yellow into constant +12v

ive sorted that now

the headunit has 3 RCA connectors... FRONT, REAR, and BUS INPUT... wtf is bus input all about?!

also it has a blue plug tha a wire that looks like a headphone connectr plugs into... anyone know what this might be? summink to do with an in-car phone kit maybe?
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 05:51 PM
  #9  
GARETH T's Avatar
GARETH T
Professional Waffler
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 9
From: barry-south wales
Default

the headunit has 3 RCA connectors... FRONT, REAR, and BUS INPUT... wtf is bus input all about?!

bus is for the multiplay
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 05:52 PM
  #10  
Zetec Andy's Avatar
Zetec Andy
10K+ Poster!!
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,421
Likes: 0
From: Speed bump central
Default

i know the sony units have a joystic control that mounts on the sterring column, i had one on my saph, they have a plug on the end thats like a headphone, it may be for that.
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 05:59 PM
  #11  
Oranoco's Avatar
Oranoco
Professional Waffler
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 25,425
Likes: 41
From: HertFORDshire
Default

Bus input is an RCA type plug that is attached to the CD changer.

If you want a hand with your ICE Jimbo let me know mate
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 06:01 PM
  #12  
Jim Galbally's Avatar
Jim Galbally
Thread Starter
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 20,599
Likes: 0
From: Ramsgate, Kent Drives: E39 530D Touring
Default

ah thatll be it then!

and yeah its got a joystick, so that explains that
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 06:14 PM
  #13  
Ginge !'s Avatar
Ginge !
just finding my feet
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 41,052
Likes: 2
From: Im behind you
Default

there should be 2 blue wires, 1 light blue and 1 dark blue, light blue is the phone interupt and the dark blue is the electril ariel and remote for the amps

as oranpcp says, dont touch ya cal till someone qualified is there beside ya
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 08:31 PM
  #14  
Jim Galbally's Avatar
Jim Galbally
Thread Starter
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 20,599
Likes: 0
From: Ramsgate, Kent Drives: E39 530D Touring
Default

ah bollocks now the CD changer's stopped workin... didnt think it felt like it was secured in properly... lol

the wiring behind the dash is a mess tho, lots of twisted together wires n stuff, not even got tape over em!

methinks im gonna tae it to some ice specialist n get em to have a proper look over it n set it all up pukka with crossovers n stuff if needed, n rewire the thing properly, soldered n heatshrunk etc. etc. i COULD do it myself, but kowing me i'd have abouit 30 screws left over at the end and a squeaky dashboard

who y'all reccomend (proper company preferably) what about audio image'? i seena lot of people that use em n stuff
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
K3V HA
Ford Escort RS Cosworth
39
Mar 18, 2005 08:11 PM
CabrioTurbo
General Car Related Discussion.
7
Dec 16, 2004 05:30 PM
Stavros
General Car Related Discussion.
8
Oct 8, 2004 07:37 AM
cossied
Technical help Q & A
3
Aug 5, 2004 07:19 PM
Anonymous
Pictures, video & Photoshop Forum
13
Apr 5, 2004 10:32 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 06:49 PM.