will they go straight on / bolt on or no?

cheers

 

No

 

use the search button on here,this topic has been done to fcuk!!!!!!!

 

some1 should do a guide to such things as these questions keep comin up. it could then be put as a sticky thread. im just about to do the conversion on my car in next few weeks so i may do a photo diary of it in stages and do one, what ya all reckon?

 

DOOOOOO IIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

 

yeah they bolt on.....4x4 calipers with 1mm spacers and 2wd discs, sorted......

 

yea mate do it, it'll help alot of people out includin me, cheers

 

will do, just gotta wait for me to get some calliper carriers lol

 

A guide for this would be great, i maybe doing it in the future as i'm sure many will

 

the easiest route to go is gettin saph 4x4 front callipers and saph 2wd discs. u can use your standard rs turbo brake hoses, but its very very recommended that u get braided ones available from burton performance for about Ł30. obviously pads needed would be 4x4 ones to go on the 4x4 callipers correctly. Apparently to make the calliper centralised over the disc, a 1mm washer is required. but as said, i havent done the conversion yet as i need to get some calliper carriers, so i will let u know how i get on wen i do them, hopefully in the next 2-3weeks

 

does the inlarged front disc upset the balance of braking on the car??
i've got standard brakes all round with the abs disconnected and the brake balance seems to be spot on even at high speeds round bends

 

And you call it "bolt on"

I did put on Mondeo V6 brakes (they are the same like cossie ones) 278 mm
and it didn't BOLT ON that easy. I had to drill hubs to accept thicker bolts. I had to buy longer bolts and I had to use 8 mm washer (I used a nut for that)
Here are some pics for you:






you can use washers (but I didn't like this method)

 

Jasus Maki,thats a very Mickey Mouse looking set up you have there!!!!!I think its safe to assume that the Mondeo brake calipers and/or disc's are different to the Cossie one's,as no way do you need to drill hub carriers or put in 8mm nuts to offset the calipers when fitting the 4x4 Cossie stuff.The set up on youre car looks dangerous!!!! Regards,Micky

 

maki, am i wrong or have u put those callipers on without the carriers? i may be well off the mark here so plz say some1 if i am....

 

Remind me never to get in that car!!!!!

 

i`ve done it on my mk3 and it gives u great brakes!!!!

 

whats that shandz? uve bodged it yea? lol

 

No...... used 4x4 calipers and 2wd discs and 1mm spacers.....

 

You think or you know? Proof me it's diferent

And to all those who think that there is some danger or it's done is some bad way I can say, that they do work and on very very hard conditions. So relax

 

I know, ShandzS1 has even posted on this thread that only 1mm spacers are required.Plus every time 4X4 Cossie calipers and Cossie 2WD discs are mentioned on Passionford its always with 1mm spacers,not fecking 8mmm nuts!!!!

see here too,Maki

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...ight=2wd+dicss

Also look at www.escortrsturbo.co.uk No one over there is using 8mm spacers on their Cossie 4x4 caliper and 2wd brake conversions!!!!!

 

think i'll wait for the guide

 

4*4 callipers are 2 pot or 1 pot?

 

4X4 calipers are 1 pot,sliding caliper.Regards,Micky

 

then they have to be the same like mondeo ones

heres one topic I took the info from:

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/forums/about132089.html

 

Maki...............you are a very brave (possibly bordering on crazy) man.

You see the pretty blue coloured bolts you removed...........

They aren't blue because the people at Ford though they would look good that colour....................

 

They are 10.9 bolts and I fitted 10.9 ones in too

 

Then why are you using nuts to give you a 8mm spaceing on youre calipers when everyone else who uses Cossie 2WD dics and Cossie 4X4 calipers only needs to use a 1mm washer?????I still think theres something not right,and it doesnt look safe to me or a few others on this post.Regards,Micky

 

Without a doubt using those massive nuts in between the hubs and carrier is compromising the strength, there will a lot higher chance of failer simply because the carrier will have that much more flex in it.

 

Did you read the link I gave you? I see no one there using just 1 mm washers. 6 mm like minimum So I'm not the only one. And I newer heard anyone get hurt by doing that.... I'm alive proof of that.
I agree there can be more flex in this system but it is compensated by thicker bolts than standard RS ones

 

how do you think peeps put st170 set up on a rst? they need 13mm spacers... you can use a nut but persoanlly i had some bosses machined

 

Maki, I think SafeChav means you should of ATLEAST used some threadlock on that setup!!

I agree it DOES NOT look SAFE.


Howcome with the washer setup the bolt sticks out on the other side of the caliper but with the 8mm nut it doesnt, looks to sit flush with the caliper? Looks like you trimmed the bolt down to sit flush so it wouldnt touch the disc? GET SOME PROPER CARRIERS and threadlock the LOT
Also, by drilling out the hubs (I dont know how much) by the looks of it theirs less space between the bolt hole and the edge of the hub, this COULD crack!

End of the day mate, if you value yours and everyone else around you's safety I'd get it sorted

 

I upgraded my standard brakes to 2wd cossie calipers on my s1. I bought the 2wd calipers by mistake... When i realised i had got the wrong ones to fit behind the standard wheels i thought... Sod it.

I fitted the 2wd calipers and ditched the standard wheels. They are absolutely fantastic. I had to drill the hubs (to 14mm i think) and machine 4mm off of the mating face of the caliper for clearance.

I run tarox drilled and grooved discs and tarox fast road pads.

Being unable to use the standard wheels is worth it when i use the brakes. A mate runs 4x4 calipers on his rs16i and IMO theres no comparison.

 

mate i have just finished mine today took me a week of evenings got about 10 cuts on my hand three blood blisters and 100 grey hairs. no not bolt on need a little tweeking here and there.

 

DaveyBoyS1 M12 is what you would of tapped it out to

Got 2wd calipers on mine and im not that impressed.....probably due to the small master cylinder though. (hoping )

 

I did cut the bolt to the right lenght. And yes I've used threadlock

 

we had a go at fittin mine this weekend. not alot of luck. ive got 4x4 front callipers and got the carriers off a mondeo v6 as theyre the same calliper. the hub had to be drilled out a little bit to accept the calliper bolts, and wen we trial fitted them, the disc is grinding against the carrier causng the discs to not be able to spin freely. anyone got a picture of their set up please. Oh yea and we had to use two 1mm washers to get the correct spacing

 

2mm spacing isnt bad at all,better than 8mm spacer's!! Regards,Micky

 

any one got a pic of them on with the carriers on. can u i have carriers made????

and what are twin piston 4x4 or 2wd?????

 

see my 2nd questions been answered

 

?????

You talking about the twin piston question???

Theres single pot which are 4wd, and 4 Pot which are 2wd.