General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

CHARGE COOLER OR INTERCOOLER?? ON RST

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 16, 2006 | 09:45 PM
  #1  
bigsjay's Avatar
bigsjay
Thread Starter
Regular Contributor
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 345
Likes: 0
Default CHARGE COOLER OR INTERCOOLER?? ON RST

SO WHATS BETTER TO HAVE OUT OF THESE? IM NO EXPERT BUT ISNT A CHARGE COOLER BETTER THAN A INTERCOOLER OR AM I WRONG?
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2006 | 09:48 PM
  #2  
bigsjay's Avatar
bigsjay
Thread Starter
Regular Contributor
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 345
Likes: 0
Default

AND WHAT MAKES DO YOU THINK ARE BEST?
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2006 | 09:48 PM
  #3  
EIL132's Avatar
EIL132
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,380
Likes: 0
From: Edinburgh
Default

100% wrong, but it totally depends on what you want the car for. 1/4 mile the chargecooler has benefits, track intercooler
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2006 | 09:50 PM
  #4  
Stavros's Avatar
Stavros
DEYTUKURJERBS
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 29,378
Likes: 1
From: North Korea
Default

chargecooler all the way IF it was big enough, but its not if you talking about the ones you generally get for em.

same as that size intercooler is too small too.

of the stuff available, a big front mounted cooler is best
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2006 | 10:03 PM
  #5  
bigsjay's Avatar
bigsjay
Thread Starter
Regular Contributor
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 345
Likes: 0
Default

if it was a cold day which out of the 2 work better? just wondering thats all.so what front intercooler is the best?
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2006 | 10:43 PM
  #6  
EIL132's Avatar
EIL132
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,380
Likes: 0
From: Edinburgh
Default

Originally Posted by bigsjay
if it was a cold day which out of the 2 work better? just wondering thats all.so what front intercooler is the best?
You live in Iceland, or just drive the RST in winter Pro Alloy or GRS, either that or make a Cossie 4x4 fit.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2006 | 10:46 PM
  #7  
Keith B's Avatar
Keith B
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,072
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, California
Default

Chargecooler of you have a big enough 'radiator' for it although alot of pumps you buy are unreliable. Intercooler is lighter, simpler and if you can get the air flow to it jsut as good. Liquid has better conduction properties of course but making one big enough for big boost and making it reliable is another thing.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:42 AM
  #8  
Eagle's Avatar
Eagle
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,610
Likes: 4
From: somwhere in wow
Default

all depends on what stage of tune you want to goto ..
i ran a charge cooler for a while on the sII at 15psi .. but once the power was upped to 24psi it stood no chance if your looking to run big power you need a big intercooler .. but with that can bring cooling issues due to it blocking off the majority of the radiator ...
but there are ways of sorting that out with a twin fan setup, and thermostat modifications and fit a nice big ally rad
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 01:59 PM
  #9  
bigsjay's Avatar
bigsjay
Thread Starter
Regular Contributor
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 345
Likes: 0
Default

so whats the differences between pro alloy and grs .which is better do you think?
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 02:41 PM
  #10  
Rab's Avatar
Rab
Fucking superstar........
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,240
Likes: 0
From: Argyll.... It's lonely...
Default

Big intercooler. Any day of the week.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 02:58 PM
  #11  
b3nle's Avatar
b3nle
15000
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
From: beds uk
Default

blow on your finger, now lick it and blow on it. chargecoolers are king.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 03:04 PM
  #12  
Gregs's Avatar
Gregs
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 787
Likes: 0
From: Derby
Default

get an escort cos std intercooler/charge cooler, then you get the best of both
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 03:08 PM
  #13  
cheeky dog's Avatar
cheeky dog
BANNED
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,496
Likes: 0
From: west london
Default

Originally Posted by bigsjay
so whats the differences between pro alloy and grs .which is better do you think?
pro alloy but GRS and Pace are good too.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 03:50 PM
  #14  
Micky's Avatar
Micky
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,990
Likes: 3
From: Dublin,IRELAND
Default

Originally Posted by b3nle
blow on your finger, now lick it and blow on it. chargecoolers are king.

Rubbish,rubbish and rubbish again.As siad above in previous posta a large intercooler is the best.The chargecooler kits that are generally available dont have a large enough rad and the pumps are unreliable.Also the whole chargecooler system is too complicated with more to go wrong.Lastly they weigh more.Regards ,Micky
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:09 PM
  #15  
Eagle's Avatar
Eagle
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,610
Likes: 4
From: somwhere in wow
Default

Originally Posted by Micky
Originally Posted by b3nle
blow on your finger, now lick it and blow on it. chargecoolers are king.

Rubbish,rubbish and rubbish again.As siad above in previous posta a large intercooler is the best.The chargecooler kits that are generally available dont have a large enough rad and the pumps are unreliable.Also the whole chargecooler system is too complicated with more to go wrong.Lastly they weigh more.Regards ,Micky
at 16 psi plus you will have no chance with a chargecooler .. i have been there .. my pace one lasted about 2 months, it was a trial to see if it would handle any power .. and it couldn't .. you get to a point where the water supposedly cooling it is as warm as the air its trying too cool..

i had a grs version 2 with an ally rad and a twin fan setup.. on track at national day 5 years ago running 24 psi i saw a max of 50deg c air charge temps
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:13 PM
  #16  
Oranoco's Avatar
Oranoco
Professional Waffler
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 25,425
Likes: 41
From: HertFORDshire
Default

Have a charge cooler on my Fiesta and a big Pace intercooler on my Escort. The intercooler wins hands down.

Once I've got some more cahs I will be seeing if I can mod a Pace cooler to fit the Fiesta
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:14 PM
  #17  
Paddy's Avatar
Paddy
Legend
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,859
Likes: 15
From: Surrey/Hants
Default

Originally Posted by b3nle
blow on your finger, now lick it and blow on it.
That gave me the horn.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:16 PM
  #18  
Stoo's Avatar
Stoo
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,685
Likes: 0
From: South Beach
Default

I had a chargecooler on my old ERST but changed to a big front mount IC. Don't really know why...but i just didn't trust the chargecooler for some reason
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:19 PM
  #19  
Paddy's Avatar
Paddy
Legend
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,859
Likes: 15
From: Surrey/Hants
Default

Originally Posted by Stoo
i just didn't trust the chargecooler for some reason
Did it look shifty and have an Irish tinker accent?

I'm bored.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:30 PM
  #20  
Mr S1's Avatar
Mr S1
Don't ask - I don't know
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 19,033
Likes: 40
From: Avoiding idiots - or trying to....
Default

I've run a chargecooler for 9 years - never had a problem and recommend them.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:37 PM
  #21  
EIL132's Avatar
EIL132
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,380
Likes: 0
From: Edinburgh
Default

Originally Posted by b3nle
blow on your finger, now lick it and blow on it. chargecoolers are king.
Boil a kettle and stick your finger in it, then try blowing it to cool it down. It's called heat soak
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:42 PM
  #22  
Eagle's Avatar
Eagle
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,610
Likes: 4
From: somwhere in wow
Default

Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by b3nle
blow on your finger, now lick it and blow on it. chargecoolers are king.
Boil a kettle and stick your finger in it, then try blowing it to cool it down. It's called heat soak

Reply
Old Oct 17, 2006 | 08:45 PM
  #23  
GavStyli's Avatar
GavStyli
Kasapis
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,359
Likes: 1
From: Palmers Greek
Default

Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by b3nle
blow on your finger, now lick it and blow on it. chargecoolers are king.
Boil a kettle and stick your finger in it, then try blowing it to cool it down. It's called heat soak
quality reply
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gcfcos
General Car Related Discussion.
59
Oct 6, 2015 05:04 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 06:41 AM.