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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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in the process of fitting a new block and im struggling to remove the block with sump attached


subframe is loose gearbox is off and drive shafts etc but its sooooo tight

is it best to remove sump??

help please
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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drop the engine out underneath with the suspension / crossmember / rack / etc (including gearbox next time) complete and split when out of car
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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gonna put it back together and do this mate cheers
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Didn't you just buy a coss, don't says its popped already?
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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Didn't you just buy a coss, don't says its popped already?

oh yeah 200 mile and the block cracked
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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what a treat , and you havent parked it in the sellers front room?
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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the diff won't come out past the crossmember

dropping it down the bottom is the easiest way without stripping the whole lot down
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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what a treat , and you havent parked it in the sellers front room?

yeah tell me about it mate

i bought the car in a healthy state and i know this due to the 70 mile test drive just bad luck but then at laest i can build it well and good from day one
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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the diff won't come out past the crossmember

dropping it down the bottom is the easiest way without stripping the whole lot down
this is very correct mate,you live and learn
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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the diff won't come out past the crossmember

dropping it down the bottom is the easiest way without stripping the whole lot down
this is very correct mate,you live and learn
that was ANOTHER 4 days i wasted

engine will come out the top
no
turbo's off it'll come out the top
nope
heads off and just bare block will let it come out the otp
don't think so
gearbox out will mean no reason to swing it backwards
you still ain't getting it are you
lets take the front diff off
again, not gonna happen
there is only the crossmember left
but then you might as well have just unbolted that in the first place and left everything on top to come down in one go you silly twat
oh yeah

at one point i threw every single tool i could get my hands on at the wall and went to get a gallon of petrol
it was the walking back that calmed me down
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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fook knows why i didnt just simply look at tjhe job and say "thats easier from below"
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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well the engines out and stripped

i have a cracked block so i have sourced a standard bore 2222 205 block for £50 inc a set of +1mm brand new rings which i think is a bargain

dropped it off at engineers shop couple of days ago.....

they have rebored for my 1mm oversize pistons
skimmed the top of the block
fit my rings
skimmed flywheel
reground crank
supplied and fitted new shells
assembled the whole thing using my arp bolts for £220

so yeah it was a twat my engine has gone pop after owning 200 miles but at least i have basically a recon bottom end with all new gaskets inc cometic for around £400 which is hopefully gonna give me a few thousand miles of fun before the bloody thing breaks again
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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just remember when you post up "why don't my engine fit in the engine bay" that you have to put it in from underneath

well done for getting it sorted in such a short time
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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ha ha yeah ill bear that in mind mate


i want her back on road only covered a few hundred miles
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ha ha yeah ill bear that in mind mate


i want her back on road only covered a few hundred miles
you may want to make your sig line a bit more witty then

how long before it's back together and running again?
and if you've got a cracked block, will you be able to use anything from the inside, pistons and crank or is that from scratch too?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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ha ha yeah ill bear that in mind mate


i want her back on road only covered a few hundred miles
you may want to make your sig line a bit more witty then

how long before it's back together and running again?
and if you've got a cracked block, will you be able to use anything from the inside, pistons and crank or is that from scratch too?
ok then ill update it

pistons are like new as there 5k old but fitting new rings for good mesure,rods and crank are fine apart from light scoring.crack was tiny ill post a pic
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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shouldn't be doing things like that should it?
how many miles did it do then?
bloacks don't break usually, it's the rest of the stuff that goes first
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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i agree mate must of been a poor cast?

or the 34 psi through the t38 isnt gonna help matters much but at least it goes to show the pistons etc are strong if they hold out longer than the block.
was built in jan covered around 5k and its 1mm overbored
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