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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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hello there.

it sometimes is difficult to get my car into gear, especially reverse, the car has a padle clutch in it and the clutch doesnt slip at all so i presume its not the clutch. So any ideas, to my mind it leaves, clutch cable/gear selectors need adjusting or box itself is on way out.

anybody got any ideas?

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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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I'd say the clutch isn't disengaging properly. Does the car "creep" at all if you are in gear with the clutch pedal depressed?
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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sometimes. But I can usally push pedal a tiny little bit extra and it stops.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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I'd say the clutch isn't disengaging properly. Does the car "creep" at all if you are in gear with the clutch pedal depressed?
mine does this sort of, sometimes u really have to push down hard the pedal to stop it

also mine is hard to get into gear and reverse like yours scott

whats the cause?
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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It can be 2 things, the quadrant not working or the thrust bearing/springs going on the clutch.

scottbrown if your clutch is fairly new it may well be the quadrant at fault.

TURBO BOI yours could well be the clutch is on its way out, is the pedal very heavy, and does it ever judder or "squeal" when you pull off?
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It can be 2 things, the quadrant not working or the thrust bearing/springs going on the clutch.



TURBO BOI yours could well be the clutch is on its way out, is the pedal very heavy, and does it ever judder or "squeal" when you pull off?
wanted say the pedal was very heavy and its not juddering or squeling at the moment

shall i give it the 2nd gear handbrake on pull away jobby test? to see if it slips or stalls?
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It can be 2 things, the quadrant not working or the thrust bearing/springs going on the clutch.



TURBO BOI yours could well be the clutch is on its way out, is the pedal very heavy, and does it ever judder or "squeal" when you pull off?
wanted say the pedal was very heavy and its not juddering or squeling at the moment

shall i give it the 2nd gear handbrake on pull away jobby test?
and now again in english
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ENGLISH VERSION

1. Put automobile into 2nd gear
2. Operate handbrake lever so that it is fully on
3. Try to pull away as normal
4. if car stalls, clutch is ok
5. if clutch slips, clutch is FU@KED

hows thats
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Originally Posted by TURBO BOI

wanted say the pedal was very heavy and its not juddering or squeling at the moment
ok, and now translate that part please
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quadrant????

mine doesnt skeel or slip even at full boost but sometimes judders on pull away
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quadrant????

mine doesnt skeel or slip even at full boost but sometimes judders on pull away
The quadrant is in the pedal, the auto adjuster. They are prone to failing.

The squealling noise (thats how i would describe it anyway) alos happens when pulling off, usually when the clutch is VERY worn though. For examply my Orion has got its original clutch and is on 108k, that worn

Uprated clutches do tend to judder, i'd say for you its probably the quadrant failed, MK6 pedal conversion would be a good mod
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
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wanted say the pedal was very heavy and its not juddering or squeling at the moment
ok, and now translate that part please
that is my fast typing

i caun typer 2000 wotrsd aminute youy knowa (sorry shit joke)

i ment to write "i wouldnt say the pedal was heavy"

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Originally Posted by TURBO BOI
i caun typer 2000 wotrsd aminute youy knowa (sorry shit joke)
i'm sure thats a very funny joke if i could read it































i'll get my coat
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quadrant????

mine doesnt skeel or slip even at full boost but sometimes judders on pull away
The quadrant is in the pedal, the auto adjuster. They are prone to failing.

The squealling noise (thats how i would describe it anyway) alos happens when pulling off, usually when the clutch is VERY worn though. For examply my Orion has got its original clutch and is on 108k, that worn

Uprated clutches do tend to judder, i'd say for you its probably the quadrant failed, MK6 pedal conversion would be a good mod
what does this involve then mate?
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Close the door on your way out safechav
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AP recomend a pedal mod to the Mk6 pedal with their paddle clutch.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TURBO BOI
Close the door on your way out safechav
no dont, i am like johnny 5

NEED MORE INPUT
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Originally Posted by scottbrown
Originally Posted by TURBO BOI
Close the door on your way out safechav
no dont, i am like johnny 5

NEED MORE INPUT
sorry scott wasnt ment for after your post, was ment for mr chav
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scottbrown, its not very hard, theres a guide on the AP website. Basically you change the pedal for a MK6 one, it has a bigger quadrant aswell, so that makes the pedal both lighter, and gives more lift, aswell as havign a screw to adjust it, so theres no risk of the adjuster breaking

What does the pedal feel like now? Does it feel nice, or not? (hard question i know )

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Originally Posted by scottbrown
Originally Posted by TURBO BOI
Close the door on your way out safechav
no dont, i am like johnny 5

NEED MORE INPUT
hey laserlips, your mama was a snow blower
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OMG u know quotes for the film

Bet you have it on DVD
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Originally Posted by TURBO BOI
OMG u know quotes for the film

Bet you have it on DVD
No i don't actually




























YET
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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waiting for them to digitally to re-master it
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Originally Posted by TURBO BOI
waiting for them digitally to re-master it
God don't forget DTS ES 6.1

ANYWAY................where were we
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Originally Posted by TURBO BOI
OMG u know quotes for the film

Bet you have it on DVD
no i dont..but

























I do have it on video somewhere
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
scottbrown, its not very hard, theres a guide on the AP website. Basically you change the pedal for a MK6 one, it has a bigger quadrant aswell, so that makes the pedal both lighter, and gives more lift, aswell as havign a screw to adjust it, so theres no risk of the adjuster breaking

What does the pedal feel like now? Does it feel nice, or not? (hard question i know )


TURBO BOI
not really sure mate, certainly drivable, but heavy and hard to get into gear sometimes.

so its just the actual pedal i need from a mk6? what about cable? do they fit straight on?
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Hmmmmmmm, have you got the highest spec clutch?

You need the pedal itself, and 58mm WHITE quadrant, NOT the 55mm black one (the AP website is wrong) and its worth getting the 2 plastic bushes that fit into the pedal just for good practice.

heres the page that describes the rest. It should fit straight on

http://www.apracing.com/roadcar/clutch/epmods.htm
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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looks dead easy





NOT

that website goes on about cutting things, me and a saw is a serious recipe for disaster!!!!
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Its not that hard, its fiddly under the dash though if you don't remove it

That quadrant is easy to cut, or if you're feeling extra brave, GRINDER
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Its not that hard, its fiddly under the dash though if you don't remove it

That quadrant is easy to cut, or if you're feeling extra brave, GRINDER
grinder

I tried cutting a bumper once with a grinder, never again. lol
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should have used your laser lips
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they only for blowing snow

"JOHNNY 5 IS ALIVE"
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Originally Posted by TURBO BOI
should have used your laser lips
AFPMSL
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they only for blowing snow

"JOHNNY 5 IS ALIVE"
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