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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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I was watching CNN last night about Terrorism and of course that "propaganda" 9-11. I was kind of like wow why hasn't any of the UK peeps given this dude an ass beating yet!! I copied and pasted part of the transcript of the show. It's a long read but you might be shocked about what a Born and Bred British citizen thinks about you. I have made in bold what I thought was interesting.


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We begin, however, with a new voice of hate. It's from London, where one man is preaching for the destruction of America, praying for another attack, and insisting every one of us is fair game.

CNN's Dan Rivers reports.

DAN RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: What was your reaction, for example, on September the 11th?

ABU ABDULLAH, MUSLIM CLERIC: Every sincere Muslim was pleased, because America deserved -- deserved a punch in the nose, you know? As many...

RIVERS: Three thousand people died that day.

ABDULLAH: Three thousand people was like a drop in the ocean, compared to the millions of Muslims that have been killed.

RIVERS (voice-over): Abu Abdullah calls himself a cleric, but his extremist views may be repugnant to the vast majority of Muslims, in fact, anyone who believes in God.

One of the most outspoken Muslims in Britain, he's an associate of convicted terrorist Abu Hamza, who is serving seven years in prison for inciting racial hatred and soliciting murder, and is wanted in the United States for trying to establish terror camps in Oregon.

But Hamza's friend Abu Abdullah is still free, despite expressing views that come very close to inciting and glorifying terrorism. But he hasn't been charged with any crimes.

ABDULLAH: My honorable Sheik Osama bin Laden, and Sheikh Ayman al-Zawahri, I love these people dearly, for the sake of Allah. I couldn't express how much I love these people.

RIVERS (on camera): You love Osama bin Laden?

ABDULLAH: Oh, yes. I love him more than myself.

RIVERS (voice-over): Abdullah tries to use the Koran to justify terror. ABDULLAH: The Muslims that have the -- obviously want to take up arms against the West, it's their Islamic right to do so. Islam is a peaceful religion, but, at the same time, Islam is allowed to defend itself.

RIVERS (on camera): It's allowed to defend itself, you would say. Is it allowed to attack the West?

ABDULLAH: Absolutely. If this person is killed by the West, then we have our rights to take it out on the West, those -- mainly the army, the British or the American army, government buildings, where they legislate from, banks.

RIVERS: So, they're fair game?

ABDULLAH: Well, it's absolutely -- of course it's fair game for the -- the Muslim.


RIVERS: So, Tony Blair is a legitimate target? George Bush is a legitimate target?

ABDULLAH: Absolutely, absolutely, yes.

RIVERS: Do you think that America and Britain will be subjected to further attacks?

ABDULLAH: They should be.


RIVERS: A lot of people will be horrified by what you're saying, that they think that you are bringing nothing but chaos and death and destruction and misery.

ABDULLAH: Well, I'm not here to please the West or to please people's understandings. My people are being killed, all over the world in many, many countries.

RIVERS: But that -- that doesn't justify...

ABDULLAH: It's not stopping.

RIVERS: ... killing other people.

ABDULLAH: It does justify. Of course it justifies it. When is it going to stop?

You people need to know, we're not going to take it anymore. You want to know why Muslims in this country are understanding what they understand? They're sick of the West. They're sick of the -- I owe this country nothing.

RIVERS (voice-over): And this from a man born and brought up in the United Kingdom, who only converted to Islam later in life.


(On camera): But do you think God really wants Muslims to go out and kill innocent people, in the name of...

ABDULLAH: God doesn't instruct Muslims to go out and kill innocent people.

RIVERS: That's what you're advocating.

ABDULLAH: No, that's what you're saying. That's the terminology you're using and the words that you're...

RIVERS: Well, let's clarify it.

ABDULLAH: We call it self-defense. The difference between me and you is faith. The difference between me and you is trying to forbid evil. The difference between me and you I live for the sake of God and you live for the sake of the devil.

RIVERS (voice-over): Dan Rivers, CNN, London.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:58 AM
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And i'm supposed to die to save TWATs like that.

No wonder i'm in need of rehab

fucking go bak to days when peol like that has mysterious car accidents

I could do that again no worrys
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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ABDULLAH: It does justify. Of course it justifies it. When is it going to stop?

You people need to know, we're not going to take it anymore. You want to know why Muslims in this country are understanding what they understand? They're sick of the West. They're sick of the -- I owe this country nothing.

RIVERS (voice-over): And this from a man born and brought up in the United Kingdom, who only converted to Islam later in life.
these so called "people" make me fucking sick if there so sick of the west then why fucking come here. oh man these CUNTS sorry but they are make me fucking SO fucked off. like i said before i don't care what race, religion, etc people are. i couldn't give a flying shit. everyone's equal....but scum freeloading cunts like him fucking piss me off with his "freedom of speech view". and deserve there fucking throat getting slit
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 02:02 AM
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If he owes this country nothing then why doesnt he FUCK OFF

Oh yeah he cant cause even the arabs dont want him
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 02:02 AM
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Gonna have to lie down cause of this cunt, otherwise ill have another fucking attack
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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calmed down now

one word describes him EVIL

wouldnt give me any nightmares to slot him
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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I think he should be mysteriously shot.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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So why couldn't a conversation like that, that was TELEVISED not get the message across to the government/pm that he either needs to get the FUCK out of our country or put him in fucking jail

He is wishing more terroist attacks upon UK and USA, and admitted that he wants that to happen. He loves one of the worlds top 10 most wanted men more than himself, and what made my stomach turn was how dismissive of 9/11 he was, about the 3000 people dying thing, fucking scumbag cunt
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Did i read that last part correctly about him forbidding evil? thats rich comin from a man who is PURE EVIL!! wot the hell is goin on these days that someone like him can preach hate on the streets and nothin is done,there relly is no hope anymore! oh well at least my turbos running ok at the mo!
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Originally Posted by pip32
Did i read that last part correctly about him forbidding evil? thats rich comin from a man who is PURE EVIL!! wot the hell is goin on these days that someone like him can preach hate on the streets and nothin is done,there relly is no hope anymore! oh well at least my turbos running ok at the mo!


its not evil to them, because of Allah.....durrrr
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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F'kin elll Warren! breathe mate breathe!

I'm a little surprised though that only a couple of people post their views! Here's a wanker who is wants more downfall in your own living room and not many say anything? Oh well, Just thought I'd let you know what this filth said on television I gotta say I was shocked!
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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to be honest dude im quite surprised there wasn't more response to this
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 01:04 AM
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i was surprised this wasnt actually on to 2 or maybe 3 pages to be honest.

Odd really well at least 3-4 of us had our say eh?
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 01:12 AM
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Yeah, but a new girl comes on here and it's 10 pages by tea time! I'm waiting for a conspiracy theorist to say it was a planned actor saying that.
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wheres that graham idiot who reckons the twin towers were blown up by princess diana?
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We're not allowed to hate muslim extremists, it isnt politically correct. We might upset 'em.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
wheres that graham idiot who reckons the twin towers were blown up by princess diana?
That's not right Chip!! you know Tupac and Biggie did it having a shoot out between the towers!
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
Originally Posted by chip-3door
wheres that graham idiot who reckons the twin towers were blown up by princess diana?
That's not right Chip!! you know Tupac and Biggie did it having a shoot out between the towers!
all lies it was JFK getting his own back with the aid of his friend from the roswell crash
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
Originally Posted by chip-3door
wheres that graham idiot who reckons the twin towers were blown up by princess diana?
That's not right Chip!! you know Tupac and Biggie did it having a shoot out between the towers!

It wasnt really tupac mate, it was an actor, the real tupac is currently being used to breed with aliens in area 51

Graham has more details though mate, as he heard it from some 13 year old fukup kid on a forum
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
he heard it from some 13 year old fukup kid on a forum
radders?
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someone lend me a sniper rifle and 1 round
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
someone lend me a sniper rifle and 1 round
for who have you seen the film loose change where did all the gold go on the train
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
F'kin elll Warren! breathe mate breathe!
Dont worry mate had a few now so know what to do if i feel it coming on.

Even got my brown paper bag to breathe in

Who needs that rifle???

Make sure its 50cal BMG so you rip his head off.
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I gotta say that i wasnt 2 surprised there werent that many posts,this has all become abit of a taboo subject really hasnt it? i mean,if a TRUE british citizen said all those things about muslims then their feet wouldnt touch the ground.youd get banged up 4 racial hatred or something! and yet when the tables turned its a different story,he gets away with murder,literally.my views on our GREAT(?) country have severly dropped over the last few years.it seems like we have to go out of our way not 2 upset them,a mate of mine said its 1 set of laws for them and another for the rest.makes u sick really,i better shoosh now b4 i get carted off!
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Originally Posted by Robbie D
to be honest dude im quite surprised there wasn't more response to this

thats because people dont want to be seen as racist.personally im not really racist but i fucking hate any free loading shitty imagrant who aint here legit and working properly and not sending there money back home to fund back pack suicide twats. too many people now days are to worried about what they say.i say fuck em all and that includes all the twats from poland latvia bosnia,where ever if they arent legit.(oh i need asylum,please help me)yeah right help em to blow us up.
as for abu, i,d just love to be locked in a room with someone like that,i,d slice him up the middle and turn him inside out! rant over
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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Trouble is Erik the Libreal do goods over here have made our lives so fook hard that you cant do this cant do that. So when the politicians go to kick these mother fookers out, or lock them away they find it hard because of these do gooders Which i think are as bad as Saddam et al. They get shitty degress and the only thing they can do is be pricks!


Anyway getting back to what you said, imo hes not a British Citizen! and i wish he would fook of somewhere else if he hates it that much in the UK., But of course he wont do that as he likes taking the UK benefits etc.
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I could honesty slit this guys throat and not feel bad about it one little bit, the stupid moron!
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Bring back ethnic cleansing, thats all I have to say on the matter.
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
I was kind of like wow why hasn't any of the UK peeps given this dude an ass beating yet!!
We're too hung up with "Political Correctness"
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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This is where this country is fooked up!! If people feel like that then get them to fook! If they feel that strongly go back to their poverty stricken shit hole countries and live under their old dictator regimes! At least then their might be some jobs for those brits that cant get a job!

I mean If I came round your house as a guest I wouldn't shit on your best carpet!
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
I was kind of like wow why hasn't any of the UK peeps given this dude an ass beating yet!!
We're too hung up with "Political Correctness"
and what a load of bollocks that is
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Thing that gets me is that these people live amonst us and we dont know. You could be living next door to one and they are friendly etc but then when they get in their house they could be calling you worse than shit.

In Newcastle's west end there is an "ethnic" sector which is just purely for them to reside and a couple of streets away there is the "white" sector albeit dole walling freeloaders. Guess which of the 2 neigbourhoods gets raided by the police every week!! Yep, the white 'hood and all they find is a couple of ounces of tack or a couple of nicked video The police won't raid the "ethnic" sector because they'll probably be taken to court for racism or some shit like that!!

A few months ago, an indian family had a death in their family and because of their religion there was no post mortem on the body, the family kept the body and according to their religion, they unlawfully cremated him in a field on top of the hill outside where they live!!! It was on our news and what did the police and authorities do, NOTHING!!.......sorry I tell a lie, they closed the road down for them!!! FFS

I've never been racist and still aren't, I've worked with and for Turks, iranians, Indians etc etc and got on with them great but it just seems there is one law for us and one for them now!

Could we go to their countries and build beautiful christian churches. NOPE!!

What is the solution for the UK? Think we've gone past a Legal one now to be honest but I just hope that there isn't anymore attacks or I think the rest of the country will sort it out themselves and become vigilantes, sad but true I think

Rant over
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Originally Posted by ESCYSCOTT
A few months ago, an indian family had a death in their family and because of their religion there was no post mortem on the body, the family kept the body and according to their religion, they unlawfully cremated him in a field on top of the hill outside where they live!!! It was on our news and what did the police and authorities do, NOTHING!!.......sorry I tell a lie, they closed the road down for them!!! FFS
What!? You cant be serious!?
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Originally Posted by DazC
I think he should be mysteriously shot.
sounds good to me

oops! my finger slipped, never mind.
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i am fucking sick to death with these muslim extremists and our stupid fucking government!!!!!!!!

the rest of the world must laugh at us! its a fooking joke over here!

they can preach all this shit and get away with it!

i think all these extremists, soon as they get caught doing anything out of line should be deported at the very least!

and i am also sick to fucking death of all these british do-gooders you gett!!!!

open your eyes!FFS cant you see its ruining our great country!!!

we are bending over backwards for these twats just for them to take this piss out of us & our country!

I used to be proud to be English now i hold my head down in shame cos we spineless do gooders letting the rest of the world do what the hell they want in our country!!!

all the muslims get put first! it shouldn't be like that! we should be put first the true british!

this country is racist towards the white now, not the asians! its reversed!



***roll on all the do-gooders now****
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Abu Abdullah was jailed earlier this year for hate filled sermons and believe he's banned from most mosques. However a law was passed 5/6 months making it ilegal to glorify terrorism and he should be investigated and imprisoned on that charge.

He's an associated of Abu Hamza (the guy with a hook for a hand) who has been jailed for 7 years for doing pretty much the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Mr Shannon
Originally Posted by ESCYSCOTT
A few months ago, an indian family had a death in their family and because of their religion there was no post mortem on the body, the family kept the body and according to their religion, they unlawfully cremated him in a field on top of the hill outside where they live!!! It was on our news and what did the police and authorities do, NOTHING!!.......sorry I tell a lie, they closed the road down for them!!! FFS
What!? You cant be serious!?
Can't remember the whole ins and outs of the story but they did apply to the council for them to do it and they said they couldn't, they couldn't ship the body back to their own country so they just did it anyway
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got this email, supposibly from aussie government

HEAR HEAR I SAY !!

Let's Move to Aussie Land!!

THIS JUST IN FROM SYDNEY.

"Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals
in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of
mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special
meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it
clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello
hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were
made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country
which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for
you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are
teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the
Australian law and another, the Islamic law, that this is false. If you
can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and
would prefer Sharia law, and have the opportunity to go to another
country which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option,"
Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to
leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to
move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later
told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values
should "clear off." Basically, people who don't want to be Australians,
and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them,
well then they can basically "clear off," he said. Separately, Howard
angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported
spies monitoring the nation's mosques.

BRITS, AMERICANS and CANADIANS.....ARE YOU LISTENING!!

This is Leadership with guts! The way it is. The way it
should be. Our men and women died in two world wars to get us this
country and we are giving it away.


now some may say im racist (do gooders!!! ) which i am not, i just have a problem with people taking the piss in our country!
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