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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Default Pinto/200-Block build - Update

Some of you may know I am building a Cozzy/Pinto hybrid engine

200 block
Cozzy crank
Cozzy rods
94mm Accralite pistons
Stage 3 Cylinder Head Developments head
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twin 45's

Well engine is all together and back in the engine bay

Just a couple of pics to let you see how I am getting on !



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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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looks very nice bro

Have you any more pics ??

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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KA ZETEC

looks very nice bro

Have you any more pics ??


Glad U like


Heres engine new home !





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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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very nice

Liking the smaller clutch

actually it all looks fooking good

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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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I'm lovin it!
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Quality project..

What sort of power are you hoping for?
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KA ZETEC

very nice

Liking the smaller clutch

actually it all looks fooking good


Heres the clutch prior to fitting

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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Muzz

Quality project..

What sort of power are you hoping for?
I started off aiming for a very strong bottom end and anything over 160 bhp @ wheels will do me fine !
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Interesting one mate

Best o luck with it
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Thats one light flywheel

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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i

Thats one light flywheel

Steve.
Sure is



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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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looking good , what clutch parts have you used and which flywheel you got? they available off the shelf for a cossie crank?
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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I like that alot!!
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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Beautifull job mate, love it
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What exhaust manifold are you using ?

When i had a very good pinto years ago i changed my 4-2-1 manifold for a Grp A version and picked up about 10bhp extra

Well worth doing

And that flywheel is

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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i

What exhaust manifold are you using ?
Ashley 2 1/4 3 piece manifold - going to be mated to an Ashley 2 1/4 twin box system

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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Beautifull job mate, love it
Sorry Stu - No ECU's or MAP sensors etc to be found ! - lol lol lol

The only BAR I run is in my tyres
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr C

what clutch parts have you used and which flywheel you got? they available off the shelf for a cossie crank?
www.burtonpower.com

Steel Ultra light flywheel

7 1/2" AP Racing twin paddle clutch
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Final Power Run Update - Today 13/06/2007



I have now done apprx 400 miles running it in and today I had the car rolling roaded @ Hi-Tech in Cradley Heath West Mids

Engine was revved to 8000rpm

Produced 184 bhp @ 7095 rpm at the wheels

Engine sounded sweet and no nasty sounds at all

A smooth torque curve starting at 1750rpm maxing out at 145 llb/ft torque @ 5500 rpm holding till 6800rpm then dropping off

Drives spot on now and ready for some fun

It may not have silly BHP as per turbo power but am sure I will have just about enough to do at least 50 mph now
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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184 @ the wheels !

Was just about to say I had 160hp @ wheels pinto and it was mega but yours must be awesome

Cracking work though, looks fantastic, black is by far the best colour on a mk2
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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well done m8, my 100E motor is a similar spec with a cossie bottom end and made similar power it goes very well on the road.

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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love it
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo

I had 160hp @ wheels pinto and it was mega but yours must be awesome
Originally Posted by the youth

made similar power it goes very well on the road.
AP Twin plate racing clutch - Now with hydraulic clutch operation !

Tran-X 4 Speed SCCR Gearbox

3.89 ratio Tran-X Plater diff set to 65/70 lb/ft

6 x 13 group 1 RS 4 spoke alloys

185/60 x 13 Toyo Proxes R888

Yes I agree it certainly goes well on the road
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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yo dave


looks well cool fair play to you mate

should go very well mate

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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A Fabulous result mate, a real credit to you.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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well done mate good work
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Nice to see you boyz appreciate a bit of The Old Skool cool - lol lol

I am on track at Croft Derby/Durham Weekender in September

On the Saturday I am giving charity rides in aid of the Richard Burns Foundation - so get your money out

Am also on track for the Sunday as well

Note to self :- Ensure 2 spare sets of tyres and brake pads are in stock
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yo dave

i am old skool
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Must fly
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by marco polo

yo dave

i am old
Dont be so hard on yourself Marco

You look old due to all the sun bathing you do when you supposed to be working
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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Good numbers there Dave

What CR is it running.

See you on track at Croft
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by robrs2

What CR is it running.

See you on track at Croft
CR = 11.5

Yep see U at Croft

Now heres one for you "New Skool" boyz

If I fancy a little snort every now and again what NOS would you lot reccomend ?

Would it make a significant difference or simply fry the engine ?
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Very nice good result

Must be fun to drive
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Originally Posted by costina

Very nice good result

Must be fun to drive
Well it certainly brings a smile to my face when tootling around country lanes and on track at Trackdays

Cant wait to stretch its legs with it new found power

Here is car whilst "running in" engine on a test day at Curborough

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Excellent did you have a fly figure???

And only running 45's there must be some room for improvement

Looks a very nice car( wish i'd bought one when i had a chance )
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looking good dave
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That looks the bollocks with decent power!

I hate the anodised trumpets though, Look to tacky for such a nice car imo!
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

I hate the anodised trumpets though, Look to tacky for such a nice car imo!
I get 4 more BHP using blue anodising

When I tried red I only got 2 BHP

Plus the blue colour matches the rest of the Black and Blue colour scheme
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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Silver you gain 10hp
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Originally Posted by RS2000CUSTOM
Originally Posted by robrs2

What CR is it running.

See you on track at Croft
CR = 11.5

Yep see U at Croft

Now heres one for you "New Skool" boyz

If I fancy a little snort every now and again what NOS would you lot reccomend ?

Would it make a significant difference or simply fry the engine ?


The problem that you have there on normal pump fuel is that you are running fairly high compression for the sort of shite at the pumps these days.

So in order to run much nitrous you are going to need to retard the timing a fair bit to avoid PCP's getting so high they lead to detonation.

Its a fairly specialist application so I dont want to wrongly guess at figures for you, but im sure with some ignition retard you can probably put 100bhp of gas in progressively without a problem.

I wouldnt recomend holding it flat out for long periods though as the extra ignition retard and the nitrous will increase your EGT's, so sustained use could easily see you melting something sadly!


Obviously though on race fuel you could probably put 200bhp+ into it and have no worries, especially given the bottom end strength you have!
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