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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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any one had any probs with them ?? like taking ages to build a engine i no some one that was told 2 to 4 weeks and has been waiting 8 months and its not just a cheap build its worth alot of money what action would you take ???
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Bluesprint = Absolute tosh IMO
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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My mate has had 2 well specced yb's built there in the last year and he got a great service around 1 month turnaround with no problems been down there a couple of times and joe seems very helpful and easy to deal with has your mate not been in contact with them?.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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yes keeps saying one more month i think 8 months is taking piss yea ??
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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What type of spec is he having built DAN???

Tis along time
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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absolute piss take

tbh.. you'd have to be a bit of a MONG to let it go on this long though!
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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You on about Nige?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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um 600 plus spec but still 8 fooking months lol
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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yes chip its nige
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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um 600 plus spec but still 8 fooking months lol
Probably one of thse places were they start one engine, then start another, then before you know it they have got 4 or 5 builds to do hence the wait was talking to Karl about this the other day, just do the one engine.......
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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yea thats what i was thinking pete i dont think he was to botherd as he had a lot of stuff going on but i think he is fed up of being lied to and treated like a cunt really as i would spending that sort of money
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Top dollar should mean top service. Whether or not the quality of the work is right should never take this long
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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bluesprint engines are the DOGS! mine took a while but it was well worth the wait mine is a very high spec too so just be paitent.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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I don't think the problem is the quality, I think its the fact that the guy has been missing his car for 8 months, after being told two weeks, and basically lied to constantly not like he's asking a great deal either really is it? how long does it take to build a YB engine?? Even if you are waiting for parts, 8 months is an absolute joke IMHO Shame, as the company generally has a blinding reputation
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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as above he has had a house built from start to finish in the time they have had his car now that is a piss take i think a little letter needs to send to them ???
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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he needs to pay joe some money first then praps joe will do more to his car
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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he needs to pay joe some money first then praps joe will do more to his car
i dont think money is a prob do you ?????? and why pay him he has no engine would you pay for a car and leave it in the show room
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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I'm surprised that you're bigging them up so much Hayden, given that your car (which was supposed to have been mapped on an engine dyno ), surges it's tits off . I would be very concerned about this and would be getting it looked at ASAP, as it desperately needs the boost curve mapping (not to mention the fuelling) - all of which you would have expected to have been done on the dyno....
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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MONEY TALKS
like i said m8 dont think money is a prob unless nige just bought his noble with buttons
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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My old engine builder/mapper, used to dyno all Joe's engines, and Nicked named him "Blue Smoke"
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I'm surprised that you're bigging them up so much Hayden, given that your car (which was supposed to have been mapped on an engine dyno ), surges it's tits off .

you noticed that the other day at brunters Mr R?
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I'm surprised that you're bigging them up so much Hayden, given that your car (which was supposed to have been mapped on an engine dyno ), surges it's tits off .

you noticed that the other day at brunters Mr R?
It was impossible to miss .
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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It didn't sound too clever in the videos posted of it the other day
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yeah i suppose so the mapping has not been right from day 1 BUT the mapping was done at field motorsport its not the engine thats at fault
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yeah i suppose so the mapping has not been right from day 1 BUT the mapping was done at field motorsport its not the engine thats at fault
Sounds like a 3 hour running session, then a few full bore runs for power curve.
Hasn't Joe checked it in car?????
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I'm surprised that you're bigging them up so much Hayden, given that your car (which was supposed to have been mapped on an engine dyno ), surges it's tits off .

you noticed that the other day at brunters Mr R?
It was impossible to miss .

I thought it was just chatter where he was lifting off
but i dunno if i was paying too much attention to everything lol

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yeah i suppose so the mapping has not been right from day 1 BUT the mapping was done at field motorsport its not the engine thats at fault
Hurry up and get it sorted then . I could get Ahmed to map it at Brunters with you if you wanted - would be cheaper than swapping the ECU? Would be all done and dusted for Ł400...
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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super p8 cant be live mapped or i would needs GEMS
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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super p8 cant be live mapped or i would needs GEMS
it can, but not in the same terms of GEM's, motech etc etc,
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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super p8 cant be live mapped or i would needs GEMS
yes it can
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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everyone i spoke to ie motorsport developments said its not a live mappable system
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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when i phoned msd up they said no! but i need it doin it goes well but would go better with right map on it
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Hayden,
maybe you could state why it is that the map is wrong
(like you told us at brunters the other day)

as at the mo this reads that Bluesprint have let you go with a dodgey
map.. and that wasnt quite how it sounded at brunters the other day

just seemed like a couple of problems that you have had, has led to it
being wrong now.
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MSD dont map Pectel systems,

You would need to go to someone like AB, or turbo systems etc etc for a P8 super 8,

My car was live mapped on P8 super 8, We done it done the local Dualler, using the lay by's, to burn and fit the new chips.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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when the car was first mapped it was on 8 F1 injectors and when i took the engine home and fitted it it missfired from day 1 so took it to steve scott @A1 AND BUT DOES THAT BOY KNOW HIS STUFF he told me map was to cock! so he put 8 greens in and a chip to run 8 greens and it run mint just wasnt the power i wanted but still run mint! the F1 INJECTORS WASNT MAPPED PROPPORLY LOW DOWN so went back to bluesprint put 8 greys back in and then took it back to field motorsport to be mapped tommy didnt pick up i had an air leak and mapped it anyway so giong on a couple of weeks and car seemed o.k then going down road giving it a bit car leaned of and split block so engine went back to joe and ill give him his due he built engine again f.o.c obviously when engine come back there was no air leaks so fuel map is f*#ked up so car doesnt run like it should so now needs mapping again but he is sending new mapped chip in post should be here in morning
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Hayden,
You seem to be getting confused, although the super P8 can't be properly live mapped in the real sense of the terms of making LIVE adjustments where you can then see the changes instantly - what you can do is alter the fuel trim / ignition on the Pectel monitor (that Ahmed connects up), so he can see what affect this has on the map. He can then BURN a chip that can be tested in the car (LIVE) and you can keep going through this process until the map is 100% spot on. While mapping the car like this, it is hooked up to a wideband lamda sensor and lap top, it's just that you can't run the software through an emulator, so you are still sort of live mapping, but it is a long winded process, as you have to keep burning chips rather than writing to the chip each time.

I am running super P8 and my map is PERFECT - it was done on the engine dyno first and then mapped on the road and at Bruntingthorpe
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Originally Posted by haydenbhp
when the car was first mapped it was on 8 F1 injectors and when i took the engine home and fitted it it missfired from day 1 so took it to Steve scott @A1 AND BUT DOES THAT BOY KNOW HIS STUFF he told me map was to cock! so he put 8 greens in and a chip to run 8 greens and it run mint just wasnt the power i wanted but still run mint! the F1 INJECTORS WASNT MAPPED PROPPORLY LOW DOWN so went back to bluesprint put 8 greys back in and then took it back to field motorsport to be mapped tommy didnt pick up i had an air leak and mapped it anyway so giong on a couple of weeks and car seemed o.k then going down road giving it a bit car leaned of and split block so engine went back to joe and ill give him his due he built engine again f.o.c obviously when engine come back there was no air leaks so fuel map is f*#ked up so car doesnt run like it should so now needs mapping again but he is sending new mapped chip in post should be here in morning

is that when ya was on way to York, heard about that

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