Another 9/11 conspiracy video "Loose Change part 2"
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...1+loose+change
This video is seriously well worth watching and extremely thought provoking
This video is seriously well worth watching and extremely thought provoking
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Ive got a dvd rip of it, watched it for the first time months ago, ive watched a few of the conspiricy dvd's, and all the documentary's explaining how it all happened, i still didnt know either way, after watching loose change, i still wasnt 100 percent sure that all was not what it seemed on september 11th.
here's and other one, says pretty much the same as loose change, but expalins it in a different way.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...september+11th
here's and other one, says pretty much the same as loose change, but expalins it in a different way.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...september+11th
Quite good video actually, but some MAJOR flaws!
Two of the flimsiest bits of evidence are the "Bin Laden responsibility" videos where they claim its not him..... because.......... get this........... he's wearing a gold ring on his finger and that's against muslim law.
Forget that in nearly every TV appearance he has ever made, he's wearing one.
They also sawy he's right handed and shown in the vid to be writing left-handed or the other way round. Either way, their information is based on a mistake on a govt website.
Goons
Two of the flimsiest bits of evidence are the "Bin Laden responsibility" videos where they claim its not him..... because.......... get this........... he's wearing a gold ring on his finger and that's against muslim law.
Forget that in nearly every TV appearance he has ever made, he's wearing one.
They also sawy he's right handed and shown in the vid to be writing left-handed or the other way round. Either way, their information is based on a mistake on a govt website.
Goons
is tis the one that says the hole in the pentagon is about a 1/4 of the size for a plane to get through?
and there's a chair balanced in a room that is totaly unscatched other than the wall not being there?
and there's a chair balanced in a room that is totaly unscatched other than the wall not being there?
Surely the people that were supposed to be dead would have chirped up saying that they weren't if it was a cover up? Or if they were dead, their familes anyway.
Don't believe the pentagon had a plane go through it, not an airliner anyway.
A lot of weird things went on, on that day. Who knows.
Don't believe the pentagon had a plane go through it, not an airliner anyway.
A lot of weird things went on, on that day. Who knows.
This film shows direct connection between the attacks of September 11, 2001 and the United States government.
Evidence is derived from news footage, scientific fact, and most important, Americans who suffered through that tragic day.
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Originally Posted by grimreaper
it is where they say the plane would of made a bigger hole and the no hole where the wings would of gone in ,
Originally Posted by Rob84
the supposed dead coulda been "disposed" of by the US government so to not expose the truth
Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by grimreaper
it is where they say the plane would of made a bigger hole and the no hole where the wings would of gone in ,
Sarcasm the lowest form of wit, my arse
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Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by grimreaper
it is where they say the plane would of made a bigger hole and the no hole where the wings would of gone in ,
Sarcasm the lowest form of wit, my arse

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Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by grimreaper
it is where they say the plane would of made a bigger hole and the no hole where the wings would of gone in ,
Less well known though is the fact a mainly aluminium plane could make its way so far into said concrete building, why do governments waste money on bunker buster missiles, just use 737's
Originally Posted by Matt J
Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by grimreaper
it is where they say the plane would of made a bigger hole and the no hole where the wings would of gone in ,
Less well known though is the fact a mainly aluminium plane could make its way so far into said concrete building, why do governments waste money on bunker buster missiles, just use 737's

seeing as someone started a 911 thread.....
heres some updates..... especially for the haters....
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml
For anyone who hasn't seen what Thermite can do
http://www.guzer.com/videos/thermite_car.php
and a few peer reviewed articles for you, with an invitation to submit if you disagree with any of it. (chip, Matt, Rich etc)
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
Shame some of the men on here don't balls as big as this woman.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42751442686831
And a small list of the people speaking out about it. Guess they're all
as well.
Morgan Reynolds - Former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor (Bush II)
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...2755-6408r.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...tcomplicit.htm
Paul Craig Roberts - Former Assistant of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration author of "Reaganonics"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...rscollapse.htm
Dr. Robert M. Bowman (Lt. Col. Ret.) - Former Head of Advanced Space Programs for the Department of Defense Author of "Star Wars Defense" during Reagan Administration
http://www.rmbowman.com/ssn/Secrecy.htm
http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobas...oid=oid%3A4282
Ray McGovern - Former CIA Analyst during the Reagan and Bush I Administrations
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...05McGovern.htm
Stanley Hilton - Bob Dole's Former Chief of Staff
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/chan...contentid=1536
Karl Schwarz - Former Republican Strategist Insider
http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...p_insider.html
Donn de Grand-Pre - U.S. Army Col. (Ret.)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html
Andreas Von Buelow - Former German Defense Minister
http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html
Physics Professor Steven Jones - Brigham Young University
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160132,00.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...twintowers.htm
Theology Professor David Ray Griffin - Clarmont Theology University
http://www.WantToKnow.info/050828latimes911conspiracy
William Rodriguez - Hero & Maintenance Worker at the Twin Towers
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/20-Jun-2005.html
Anatoli Kornukov - Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force
http://www.tenc.net/news/airf.htm
Michael Meacher - Former UK Minister of Environment
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...036571,00.html
David Shayler - Former MI5 British Secret Agent
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...5insidejob.htm
Russ Wittenberg -Former Air Force and Commercial Airline Pilot
http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=106623
Louis Freeh - Former FBI Director (under Bush II)
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559
U.S. Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
http://www.ajc.com/hp/content/auto/e...6d13800b4.html
U.S. Senator Mark Dayton (D-Minn.)
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modu...rticle&sid=369
U.S. Congressman Ron Paul, (R-TX) (MD)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul200.html
U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/335527.shtml
U.S. Congressman Curt Weldon (R-PA)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=965
Command Sergeant Major Eric Haney - Founder of the Military's Elite Covert Counter-Terrorist Unit, Delta force
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/...reat_to_us.htm
Stan Goff - U.S. Special Forces Master Sergeant (Ret.)
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc_media.htm
Catherine Austin Fitts - Former Ass. Secretary of Housing (Bush II)
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...41101130426916
Sibel Edmonds - Former FBI Translator "Whistleblower"
http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds.htm
Coleen Rowley - Former Special FBI Agent
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html
Robert Wright - Former Special FBI Agent
http://www.prisonplanet.com/another_...he_whistle.htm
Paul O'Neill - Former Treasury Secretary (Bush II)
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2004/01...ul-oneill.html
Joseph Wilson - Former U.S. Diplomat
http://www.legitgov.org/clg_intervie...on_060705.html
Karen Kwiatkowski - Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Pentagon
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/e...en_kwiatkowski
Scholars for 9/11 Truth
http://www.st911.org/
Respected Leaders and Families 9/11 Truth Statement
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...41026093059633
Unanswered Questions from 9/11 Victim's Families
http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html
Experts Call for Release of 9/11 Evidence
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/200603.../prweb352979_1
Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/200601...eb/prweb339303
Official 9/11 Story Disputed by Experts and Witnesses
http://www.lasvegastribune.com/20050729/headline3.html
National Security Experts Speak Out: 9/11 Commission Falls Short
http://www.BreakForNews.com/Vets-on-911-Commission.htm
"The real problem with the official line on 9/11 is that it relies on wrong-headed science that starts with "a conclusion" and seeks out evidence that supports that theory to the exclusion of all other evidence." ~ Prof. Steven E. Jones[/quote]
heres some updates..... especially for the haters....
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml
BYU Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples, Building Collapses an Inside Job
Based on chemical analysis of WTC structural steel residue, a Brigham Young University physics professor has identified the material as Thermate. Thermate is the controlled demolition explosive thermite plus sulfur. Sulfur cases the thermite to burn hotter, cutting steel quickly and leaving trails of yellow colored residue.
Dr. Jones in earlier work pointed to thermate as the likely explosive that brought down the WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 skyscrapers. But only recently was physical material analysed in the lab and the presense of thermate announced. The samples were provided Dr. Jones team from redundant sourses.
Both BYU and Prof. Jones have been offered additional grants if he would "change the direction" of his research. In addition, there have been threats made by an individual who "is taking action" to stop Steven Jones' research, specifically his experiment with thermites (aluminothermics), on the grounds his work may be helpful to "terrorists". Jones notes that much more detailed information on both thermite and thermate is readily available on the internet.[/b]
Based on chemical analysis of WTC structural steel residue, a Brigham Young University physics professor has identified the material as Thermate. Thermate is the controlled demolition explosive thermite plus sulfur. Sulfur cases the thermite to burn hotter, cutting steel quickly and leaving trails of yellow colored residue.
Dr. Jones in earlier work pointed to thermate as the likely explosive that brought down the WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 skyscrapers. But only recently was physical material analysed in the lab and the presense of thermate announced. The samples were provided Dr. Jones team from redundant sourses.
Both BYU and Prof. Jones have been offered additional grants if he would "change the direction" of his research. In addition, there have been threats made by an individual who "is taking action" to stop Steven Jones' research, specifically his experiment with thermites (aluminothermics), on the grounds his work may be helpful to "terrorists". Jones notes that much more detailed information on both thermite and thermate is readily available on the internet.[/b]
http://www.guzer.com/videos/thermite_car.php
and a few peer reviewed articles for you, with an invitation to submit if you disagree with any of it. (chip, Matt, Rich etc)
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
Shame some of the men on here don't balls as big as this woman.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42751442686831
And a small list of the people speaking out about it. Guess they're all
as well.Morgan Reynolds - Former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor (Bush II)
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...2755-6408r.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...tcomplicit.htm
Paul Craig Roberts - Former Assistant of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration author of "Reaganonics"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...rscollapse.htm
Dr. Robert M. Bowman (Lt. Col. Ret.) - Former Head of Advanced Space Programs for the Department of Defense Author of "Star Wars Defense" during Reagan Administration
http://www.rmbowman.com/ssn/Secrecy.htm
http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobas...oid=oid%3A4282
Ray McGovern - Former CIA Analyst during the Reagan and Bush I Administrations
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...05McGovern.htm
Stanley Hilton - Bob Dole's Former Chief of Staff
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/chan...contentid=1536
Karl Schwarz - Former Republican Strategist Insider
http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...p_insider.html
Donn de Grand-Pre - U.S. Army Col. (Ret.)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html
Andreas Von Buelow - Former German Defense Minister
http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html
Physics Professor Steven Jones - Brigham Young University
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160132,00.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...twintowers.htm
Theology Professor David Ray Griffin - Clarmont Theology University
http://www.WantToKnow.info/050828latimes911conspiracy
William Rodriguez - Hero & Maintenance Worker at the Twin Towers
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/20-Jun-2005.html
Anatoli Kornukov - Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force
http://www.tenc.net/news/airf.htm
Michael Meacher - Former UK Minister of Environment
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...036571,00.html
David Shayler - Former MI5 British Secret Agent
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...5insidejob.htm
Russ Wittenberg -Former Air Force and Commercial Airline Pilot
http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=106623
Louis Freeh - Former FBI Director (under Bush II)
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559
U.S. Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
http://www.ajc.com/hp/content/auto/e...6d13800b4.html
U.S. Senator Mark Dayton (D-Minn.)
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modu...rticle&sid=369
U.S. Congressman Ron Paul, (R-TX) (MD)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul200.html
U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/335527.shtml
U.S. Congressman Curt Weldon (R-PA)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=965
Command Sergeant Major Eric Haney - Founder of the Military's Elite Covert Counter-Terrorist Unit, Delta force
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/...reat_to_us.htm
Stan Goff - U.S. Special Forces Master Sergeant (Ret.)
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc_media.htm
Catherine Austin Fitts - Former Ass. Secretary of Housing (Bush II)
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...41101130426916
Sibel Edmonds - Former FBI Translator "Whistleblower"
http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds.htm
Coleen Rowley - Former Special FBI Agent
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html
Robert Wright - Former Special FBI Agent
http://www.prisonplanet.com/another_...he_whistle.htm
Paul O'Neill - Former Treasury Secretary (Bush II)
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2004/01...ul-oneill.html
Joseph Wilson - Former U.S. Diplomat
http://www.legitgov.org/clg_intervie...on_060705.html
Karen Kwiatkowski - Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Pentagon
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/e...en_kwiatkowski
Scholars for 9/11 Truth
http://www.st911.org/
Respected Leaders and Families 9/11 Truth Statement
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...41026093059633
Unanswered Questions from 9/11 Victim's Families
http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html
Experts Call for Release of 9/11 Evidence
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/200603.../prweb352979_1
Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/200601...eb/prweb339303
Official 9/11 Story Disputed by Experts and Witnesses
http://www.lasvegastribune.com/20050729/headline3.html
National Security Experts Speak Out: 9/11 Commission Falls Short
http://www.BreakForNews.com/Vets-on-911-Commission.htm
"The real problem with the official line on 9/11 is that it relies on wrong-headed science that starts with "a conclusion" and seeks out evidence that supports that theory to the exclusion of all other evidence." ~ Prof. Steven E. Jones[/quote]
i seen the first one and defo got me thinking.remember the bit about the black box on planes which are meant to be Indistructible and were destroyed, yet the paper passport of the terrorist survived everything!
IMO we know fuck all as to what the goverments do,its all about power and americans want power and the oil
IMO we know fuck all as to what the goverments do,its all about power and americans want power and the oil
Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by Graham S1
lots of links snipped
I don't spend much time debating 911 these days... gone waaaayyy beyond 911. And there are worse things that happen than 911 that we don't know about
Heres a good one. Alex Jones' new film Terrorstorm. Show how this fake terror has been going on for the last 50 odd years, showing declassified documents as proof. Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty etc....
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=terrorstorm
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Will leave it till MWF as hes doing a good enough job on his own 