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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Default Another 9/11 conspiracy video "Loose Change part 2"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...1+loose+change

This video is seriously well worth watching and extremely thought provoking
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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this is amazing
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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cant be bothered too watch it TBH
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Really interesting actually Gareth!
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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how long is it?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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ok, just seen the time for it, fook me if i'm waiting to watchi it for 1 hour and 20 miutens
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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what a cover up
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Danny-p
what a cover up
oh no,, someone else caught by the web
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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watch it and make your own decision
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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I've seen the first one, but not the 2nd one yet. The first one was good, but I'm not convinced, however they do have some very valid points.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Ive got a dvd rip of it, watched it for the first time months ago, ive watched a few of the conspiricy dvd's, and all the documentary's explaining how it all happened, i still didnt know either way, after watching loose change, i still wasnt 100 percent sure that all was not what it seemed on september 11th.

here's and other one, says pretty much the same as loose change, but expalins it in a different way.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...september+11th
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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just watched it all the way through. to many hard facts to disbelieve the truth
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny-p
watch it and make your own decision
Is that what you did... really?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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no word of a lie i've got flu and bored out of my tree
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by Danny-p
watch it and make your own decision
Is that what you did... really?
AFMPSL!


That really is one of the most awesome replies ive ever read on a forum
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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AFMPSL ?????
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Absolutely
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(so much so i typed it in the wrong order)
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Quite good video actually, but some MAJOR flaws!

Two of the flimsiest bits of evidence are the "Bin Laden responsibility" videos where they claim its not him..... because.......... get this........... he's wearing a gold ring on his finger and that's against muslim law.

Forget that in nearly every TV appearance he has ever made, he's wearing one.

They also sawy he's right handed and shown in the vid to be writing left-handed or the other way round. Either way, their information is based on a mistake on a govt website.

Goons
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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is tis the one that says the hole in the pentagon is about a 1/4 of the size for a plane to get through?
and there's a chair balanced in a room that is totaly unscatched other than the wall not being there?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Surely the people that were supposed to be dead would have chirped up saying that they weren't if it was a cover up? Or if they were dead, their familes anyway.

Don't believe the pentagon had a plane go through it, not an airliner anyway.

A lot of weird things went on, on that day. Who knows.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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the supposed dead coulda been "disposed" of by the US government so to not expose the truth
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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This film shows direct connection between the attacks of September 11, 2001 and the United States government.
And there was me thinking the American government had nothing to do with it.

Evidence is derived from news footage, scientific fact, and most important, Americans who suffered through that tragic day.
I tell you what. If I'm going to believe anything it's the totally educated and unbiased view of a manically wheeping widow. That and the accounts of people fleeing the scene for their lives.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by grimreaper
it is where they say the plane would of made a bigger hole and the no hole where the wings would of gone in ,
Indeed. It's well known scientific fact that if you fly a plane into a building made of concrete it will leave a plane shaped hole. Studying any cartoon will prove that.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob84
the supposed dead coulda been "disposed" of by the US government so to not expose the truth
Makes sense I guess. Always easier to add to the death toll when creating a conspiracy. Certainly easier than inventing one where terrorists steal a cargo plane instead.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by grimreaper
it is where they say the plane would of made a bigger hole and the no hole where the wings would of gone in ,
Indeed. It's well known scientific fact that if you fly a plane into a building made of concrete it will leave a plane shaped hole. Studying any cartoon will prove that.


Sarcasm the lowest form of wit, my arse
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt J
Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by grimreaper
it is where they say the plane would of made a bigger hole and the no hole where the wings would of gone in ,
Indeed. It's well known scientific fact that if you fly a plane into a building made of concrete it will leave a plane shaped hole. Studying any cartoon will prove that.
It is indeed a well known fact

Less well known though is the fact a mainly aluminium plane could make its way so far into said concrete building, why do governments waste money on bunker buster missiles, just use 737's
Have you ever tried to attach 4 737's to the underside of a F18?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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seeing as someone started a 911 thread.....

heres some updates..... especially for the haters....

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml

BYU Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples, Building Collapses an Inside Job

Based on chemical analysis of WTC structural steel residue, a Brigham Young University physics professor has identified the material as Thermate. Thermate is the controlled demolition explosive thermite plus sulfur. Sulfur cases the thermite to burn hotter, cutting steel quickly and leaving trails of yellow colored residue.

Dr. Jones in earlier work pointed to thermate as the likely explosive that brought down the WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 skyscrapers. But only recently was physical material analysed in the lab and the presense of thermate announced. The samples were provided Dr. Jones team from redundant sourses.

Both BYU and Prof. Jones have been offered additional grants if he would "change the direction" of his research. In addition, there have been threats made by an individual who "is taking action" to stop Steven Jones' research, specifically his experiment with thermites (aluminothermics), on the grounds his work may be helpful to "terrorists". Jones notes that much more detailed information on both thermite and thermate is readily available on the internet.[/b]
For anyone who hasn't seen what Thermite can do

http://www.guzer.com/videos/thermite_car.php


and a few peer reviewed articles for you, with an invitation to submit if you disagree with any of it. (chip, Matt, Rich etc)

http://www.journalof911studies.com/

Shame some of the men on here don't balls as big as this woman.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42751442686831



And a small list of the people speaking out about it. Guess they're all as well.


Morgan Reynolds - Former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor (Bush II)
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...2755-6408r.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...tcomplicit.htm

Paul Craig Roberts - Former Assistant of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration author of "Reaganonics"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...rscollapse.htm

Dr. Robert M. Bowman (Lt. Col. Ret.) - Former Head of Advanced Space Programs for the Department of Defense Author of "Star Wars Defense" during Reagan Administration
http://www.rmbowman.com/ssn/Secrecy.htm
http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobas...oid=oid%3A4282

Ray McGovern - Former CIA Analyst during the Reagan and Bush I Administrations
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...05McGovern.htm

Stanley Hilton - Bob Dole's Former Chief of Staff
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/chan...contentid=1536

Karl Schwarz - Former Republican Strategist Insider
http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...p_insider.html

Donn de Grand-Pre - U.S. Army Col. (Ret.)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html

Andreas Von Buelow - Former German Defense Minister
http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html

Physics Professor Steven Jones - Brigham Young University
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160132,00.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...twintowers.htm

Theology Professor David Ray Griffin - Clarmont Theology University
http://www.WantToKnow.info/050828latimes911conspiracy

William Rodriguez - Hero & Maintenance Worker at the Twin Towers
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/20-Jun-2005.html

Anatoli Kornukov - Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force
http://www.tenc.net/news/airf.htm

Michael Meacher - Former UK Minister of Environment
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...036571,00.html

David Shayler - Former MI5 British Secret Agent
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...5insidejob.htm

Russ Wittenberg -Former Air Force and Commercial Airline Pilot
http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=106623

Louis Freeh - Former FBI Director (under Bush II)
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559

U.S. Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
http://www.ajc.com/hp/content/auto/e...6d13800b4.html

U.S. Senator Mark Dayton (D-Minn.)
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modu...rticle&sid=369

U.S. Congressman Ron Paul, (R-TX) (MD)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul200.html

U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/335527.shtml

U.S. Congressman Curt Weldon (R-PA)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=965

Command Sergeant Major Eric Haney - Founder of the Military's Elite Covert Counter-Terrorist Unit, Delta force
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/...reat_to_us.htm

Stan Goff - U.S. Special Forces Master Sergeant (Ret.)
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc_media.htm

Catherine Austin Fitts - Former Ass. Secretary of Housing (Bush II)
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...41101130426916

Sibel Edmonds - Former FBI Translator "Whistleblower"
http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds.htm

Coleen Rowley - Former Special FBI Agent
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html

Robert Wright - Former Special FBI Agent
http://www.prisonplanet.com/another_...he_whistle.htm

Paul O'Neill - Former Treasury Secretary (Bush II)
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2004/01...ul-oneill.html

Joseph Wilson - Former U.S. Diplomat
http://www.legitgov.org/clg_intervie...on_060705.html

Karen Kwiatkowski - Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Pentagon
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/e...en_kwiatkowski

Scholars for 9/11 Truth
http://www.st911.org/

Respected Leaders and Families 9/11 Truth Statement
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...41026093059633

Unanswered Questions from 9/11 Victim's Families
http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

Experts Call for Release of 9/11 Evidence
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/200603.../prweb352979_1

Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/200601...eb/prweb339303

Official 9/11 Story Disputed by Experts and Witnesses
http://www.lasvegastribune.com/20050729/headline3.html

National Security Experts Speak Out: 9/11 Commission Falls Short
http://www.BreakForNews.com/Vets-on-911-Commission.htm

"The real problem with the official line on 9/11 is that it relies on wrong-headed science that starts with "a conclusion" and seeks out evidence that supports that theory to the exclusion of all other evidence." ~ Prof. Steven E. Jones[/quote]
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just watched and there are a lot of questionable facts about wot really happened , got me wonderin tbh
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Originally Posted by Graham S1

lots of links snipped
you, mr, have WAY to much time on your hands for devious thinking
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i seen the first one and defo got me thinking.remember the bit about the black box on planes which are meant to be Indistructible and were destroyed, yet the paper passport of the terrorist survived everything!
IMO we know fuck all as to what the goverments do,its all about power and americans want power and the oil
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Will leave it till MWF as hes doing a good enough job on his own
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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lots of links snipped
you, mr, have WAY to much time on your hands for devious thinking
cut n paste doesn't take too long.

I don't spend much time debating 911 these days... gone waaaayyy beyond 911. And there are worse things that happen than 911 that we don't know about


Heres a good one. Alex Jones' new film Terrorstorm. Show how this fake terror has been going on for the last 50 odd years, showing declassified documents as proof. Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty etc....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=terrorstorm

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