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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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The car is a Mk2 XR2, it's totally stripped, and the power figure will be in the region of 200bhp...

Yeah I know 200bhp is realitivly easy to get out of a turbo... But I took my RS2k out on track at Fordfair, it's in full road trim and putting out approx 170 BHP, and to be blunt I was wasting the RST's out there with me, they where leaving me on the straights, but i was killing them in the bends, and in the end most just got fed up with me sitting on there bumpers and let me thru on the straight, now had i been in a stripped XR2 running similar power N/A I personally think there would have been no competition even on the straights...

I know most people on here will still say Turbo, but i'm more and more thinkin N/A..

Opinions please?
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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i went from a turboed car to a NA to a turboed car and basicly cause i love a turbo so much more torque and easy to upgrade as well
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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you gonna have to do a fucking lot to get a N/A XRpoo to 200Bhp even using a heavily modded 2.0l block!
Therefore id say turbo.. lots of power and relatively (compared to tuning N/A) cheap .. doesnt really matter so much about lag on track (if its set-up correctly as you will hardly ever be off boost! )
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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Gary,

did you get my pm mate?
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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N/A is a turbocharged engine with never ending Lag.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SapphyMike
Gary,

did you get my pm mate?
No mate...
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Very Valid points... taken on board!!

Anyone gonna stick up for N/A?
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl
N/A is a turbocharged engine with never ending Lag.
i agree
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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sorry im a boost junkie... i love the feel of that sudden hit when it comes on boost
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl
N/A is a turbocharged engine with never ending Lag.
Not in mine it isn't, it's a turbocharged engine that never comes on boost!
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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Turn the boost up then!
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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I like n/a cars, love the induction noise of twin carbs and throttlebodies, never tried a really powerful turbo tho only a couple of RST's around 180bhp, but, if you were going for 200 bhp n/a i would say that you will have a comparatively narrow power band high up the rev range with not as much torque as a turbo of similar power. Not a massive problem if it's predominently a track car, you have to think carefully about what you want to use it for.

If it's just for tracking then 2.0 zetec with jenvey throttlebodies
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Gary,

Resent it mate.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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I dunno then... Cuz as I said at silverstone I was all over the turbo's, now I dont think for one second that's down to my driving as it was my first time out...

Thats in a Heavy RS2000, look at PF Dave and GrahamB ...
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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its all about power delivery...

RST floors it out of a bend... lag lag lag lag.... go

you floor it... you just go

however the myth that a 200bhp NA engine is always better than a 200bhp turbo engine is also complete bollocks... because the turbo engine could stilll have a better power delivery...

the turbo engine could be producing shedloads of torque all thru the revrange, with the NA motor being really peaky at high rpm... or visa versa...


at the end of the day tho, most NA engines can be made better with a bit of forced induction... not much stuff you commonly see doesnt respond well to a bit of boost
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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might have had something to do with your 4WD Gary
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Hmmmmmmm maybe,

But I still say had I been in the Mk2 i'd have been even faster!!
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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I like N/A power delivery.
Mine has 170 lb ft from 2000 rpm and over 200 lb ft from 3400 to 5900 rpm with 214 BHP at the top there (with the old shagged engine)
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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Mine has 170 lb ft from 2000 rpm and over 200 lb ft from 3400 to 5900 rpm with 214 BHP at the top there (with the old shagged engine)
but yours is a large capaticy 6cyl engine...

a 200bhp 1.6 CVH will not have anywhere near the low down torque...
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