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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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As most know you've all seen Performance ford Mag, its been done to a Mk2 escort, the WRC Escos on this months cover and probably many more in Norway, How much work do you all reckon it'll be to move the Rad into the back of an S2?

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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i started to think the same thing m8!

its the air intakes which is were u would need to concentrate as the rest is just pip work!

i suposea perspex rear window possibly roof scoop!?
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i was thinking about to cut the boot floor out where the spare wheels sits, weld another plate over so its flat but with a hole the sixe of the Rad, with a duct under the car directing air through it, but then it needs to exit? was thinking then to cut holes where the number plate is for an exit route??
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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couldn't you negate the air intake using fans at all?








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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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coudl do! m8!

when u done it let me know!
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yeh thats in mind to
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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was thinking about doing this on my track car, but there's no need water temp's shouldnt be a problem, with good ducting and frontal area at optimum.
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i want to do it as far as i know its never been done to an S2, correct me if im wrong please to on that, would like it to show it off and also for the fact that it will reduce temps alot i should imagine
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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if you need to move your rad then you seriously need to question why. Either the rad or cooling system isnt performing up to scratch or there is a flaw in your setup, i.e with obstruction from the intercooler, or there is a gap between the intercooler and rad, causing a bad air pocket.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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my GRS isnt fitted yet, but with just a cooler in the front wouldnt this be better?
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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when i had my grs completley covering my rad one of my kenlowes decided to pack up and the fucking about i had to do to replace it was bollocks really plus i was never 100% happy/trusting/believing that this was the best way to go with an S2 bearing in mind the rad was sooo close to the turbo





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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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of course it would but it seems a bit pointless, loads of other options to cool improve water temps.

Better Rad
Ducting to rad
Better air flow to rad
Heat wraping of exhaust downpipe.
Better water\anti freeze mix.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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there is that, CheeRS for the Replys
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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nowt wrong with the rad i got off you mate was there? lol
even though i never did have any problems for some reasons it was always lurking in the back of my mind to keep one eye perm on the temp gauge and start panicking when traffic was looming up like i said even though i never had a problem??




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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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what that pace one martin?

no mate never had a water problem, had a GRS and 1 kelowe, never had a water temp problem, even sat in traffic for like 30-45mins.

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anybody else?
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Yes m8, put the rad in the back, doesn't look like anyone knows of it being done before which is always a good thing.

Just think about it too, you could sling the McD's in the back and your bigmac would never go cold again.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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your a joker mate <<<----- real tears LOL

anyway im a KFC man
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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No idea exactly how its done, but dont look like anyone does whos posted so far, lol

Heres one with the bootlid converted to a scoop, looks ace


was told before that theres no effective cooling (apart from from fans) until at full race speed with a setup like this, which could be a problem if its true, no idea IF its true tho...

But a setup like this finaly gives cossies and rsts the chance to have a decent thickness intercooler as the ones they run at mo are patheticly thin
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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But a setup like this finaly gives cossies and rsts the chance to have a decent thickness intercooler as the ones they run at mo are patheticly thin

exactly what i was thinking mate too but after reading the report in pf mag the ones about don't seem bad for the skinnyness of them do they?

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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Martin m8, if you're trying to persuade him not to do it, you'll have to be more forceful than that! You should have seen us trying to convince him that his pink neons looked cack.

He wouldn't listen
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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neons!!! dont even go down that road
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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I'm thinking radiator on the roof with an american police car light conversion.

Take your neons off and fit some of those flashing knight rider lights, the look the bomb.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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i fooooking hate neons and gay wanker lights etc etc
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Why on earth would you want to put the rad in the boot on a S2?

The reason it's been done in that car in PF is because it's a WRC car, and removing any object from potential damage/clearing space from the front of the car is a priority.

Would be the most pointless gimmicky waste of time..............
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send me a decent pic of your car mate and I'll use my "SUPER ADVANCED" Photoshop skills to create the car of your dreams. patrick.oc@btinternet.com
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Use this paddy, i can see something funny coming!

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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HAHA, looks like someone already made a joke of it....
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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LOL, its changed now
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Why on earth would you want to put the rad in the boot on a S2?

The reason it's been done in that car in PF is because it's a WRC car, and removing any object from potential damage/clearing space from the front of the car is a priority.

Would be the most pointless gimmicky waste of time..............
WRC cars DONT have the rads in the boots do they?

IMO the reason for it is to give room for a decent sized (thickness) intercooler...
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RichardPON wrote:
Why on earth would you want to put the rad in the boot on a S2?

The reason it's been done in that car in PF is because it's a WRC car, and removing any object from potential damage/clearing space from the front of the car is a priority.

Would be the most pointless gimmicky waste of time..............


WRC cars DONT have the rads in the boots do they?

IMO the reason for it is to give room for a decent sized (thickness) intercooler...
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just thinking of the room you would have for the intercooler would be unreal wouldn't it i know it's a bit ott but why not try it if you have the dough as well as a fucky fuck off intercooler fuck off size lol
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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The rad in the boot works extremely well with the Norwegian cars so there is no reason why it wouldn't here too.

Remember the main reason is because they run large intercoolers and simply don't have room to run a rad there too, so they have to relocate them, although in most cases the water temps are better than in the conventional position and so are the ACT's!

All the cars with this I have seen have a cut out underneath the boot floor that scoops air into the rad, but bare in mind, as with this months cover car on his first mock up of the rad box, the air pressure can get extremely high if your not careful, so think about the air out, just as much as getting the air in!

Good luck though!
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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but bare in mind, as with this months cover car on his first mock up of the rad box, the air pressure can get extremely high if your not careful,
what is the Rad Box?? if i was to go ahead with the conversion i would cut the boot floor and the rear panel for an entrance and escape route for the air, and run copper piping through the car to the engine
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Won't the extra water capacity created by the piping to the rear radiator setup help with keeping water temp down too?

But on the flipside I'd imagine you'd need to uprate the water pump considerably to get it to flow around the car properly?

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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i should imagine so with the water pump
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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Just lookin through a few pics of the quattro s1 and they also had there rad in the boot...








got a picture of what i think is the pipes for the rad too and theres no size to them really ... there pretty small

they used the big air intakes on both rear quarter panels to let the air in ...not sayin you should take a grinder to your car though
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:52 PM
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CheeRS for all replys
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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What a total and utter waste of time for a S2. I've managed to fit 3 4X4 intercoolers into the front of an RST so theres no excuse for not being able to fit a big intercooler!
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 01:16 AM
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couldnt you pipe it up like a camper van and have the radiator in the car?

perhaps just to the side of you? keep you warm in the colder months!! that would be really good that!!

not sure how it would fair on MOT tests etc if you cut the boot floor out?

but maybe it falls by the rule... if aint there they cant test it!! pmsl
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 01:24 AM
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LOL
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