whats the max bhp this intercooler could produce? any1 using 1? what sort of power you running with urs ppl?

 

i used to have one but with 207 bhp at 14 psi it just wasnt up to it as the act's were through the roof!!
it also depends what amount of boost your running rather than bhp!!

 

seen them do 220+

 

what were the act's at that power?? high i expect

 

16-18psi it's still managable.

If your making the power, it's irrelevant what the inlet temp is anway if it's mapped for it.

 

ive just bought a pro alloy rad, and will be buying an intercooler next not sure wot to get mind a pro alloy double caps or just get there front mount version any ideas whos tried wot..?

Sorry for the post hijack

 

personaly i'd go for a GRS

 

oops this wasnt ment for this one, wrong post

 

yes it was actually


i just spent 7 hours in A&E and am therefore a bit brain dead at the mo

 

running mine at 20 psi, 218.5 bhp and 230lb ft torque

 

wot other mods u got to run this spec?

 

These double capacity pace intercoolers are cr*p.Stick in an ACT guage and you'll see over 70C within 1 minute.At this temp the ignition is retarded,thus reducing BHP.Far better to fit a GRS intercooler instead.Regards Micky

 

ive got one, and tbh, its pretty gay,
im runnin about 20psi and ive had it rolling roaded at 232bhp @ the wheels, but if ur on a tight budget, get the rad tech front mount, other wise go grs,

i am,
i need a better rad as well

 

you have a pro alloy one and its not very good..?

 

232 @ wheels or flywheel as 232 @ wheels will give you 260 - 265@ flywheel

 

Few people drive a minute of full throttle driving in the real world - and its better than the 100+degrees seen by a std cooler.

 

232 @ the wheels??? u sure on a pace intercooler???


jesus... wot other mods u got .....????


or did u mean at the flywheel?

 

id say thats bout 280bhp at the flywheel and with a pace must see high ACT's


as sed ... ive got a GRS and its the nads...

id get 1 if i were u matey

 

definatly at the whells,

t34, stage three head, port matched inlet, modified metering head, tube tourque exhaust, 3' bore down pipe and system, piper 285t2 cam 20-21psi

my act gauge stops reading at 75 so havct got a clue,

i noi resally need to sort it./.....
ive got the pace one, gunna get grs and pace rad,

ZIPPYOBRIEN (im round lukes )

 

ok....


if my read even 55 ACT temps i wudnt drive it again till i changed the cooler mate...

thats dangerous shit...

Aarons S1 runs highest of 25ACT on warm day... with GRS


wot bottom end u got?

 

55 degrres isn't dangerous at all. Some turbo cars have run without intercooelrs full stop. Hot compressed air is nothing like the temperatures seen in the combustion chamber.

It's certainly true that cool air gives more power, but equally, if more not important, is the intercoolers ability to flow - and thats where the GRS really falls.

The GRS certainly do cool the air - because it spends so much time in there! A good example is Linsay's car, which did 220bhp on a pace double capacity, and 230 on a GRS. Defo an improvement, but hardly earth shattering.

 

what about the pace front mount? I had one on mine and never saw over 25.

 

so non of you used a pro alloy front mount then.?

 

kiddie

off the shelf, this is my favourite cooler.

Patto
Yes, mates Mike and Sean use them on S2/Fez, but i havent tested them as such.

What i will say, is they are proper good fit - really easy to do, and look factory.

 

nice one thinks theres is deffo the one for me then..

 

okay................

 

Sore head

 

 

Never let physics stand in the way of a good bit of marketing

 

 

im on a mostly standard bottom end (with a few minor fettles)

all ino is, i put me foot down, it pisses off, simple equation,

obviously it would be better with a front mountm but im feed up of the car rapping my wallet

 

ok matey... but with those temps soon the equation will become...


foot down + fucks off + High ACT's = debting then... POP


more money than a £300 cooler

 

ditto i'm afraid, its a false eccomony

 

does water injection bring ACT'S down much? if i fitted water injection instead of FMIC would it do the same job?

 

They do work but you then have the problem of it running dry, especially if you get your car set up to run it. Go for the intercooler I'm sure it is cheaper than water injection anyway?

 

am running 208bhp at 16 psi through mine act's are spot on too

 

wots ur spec?

 

But it doesn't.

The ECU (even on shite KE Jetronic) retards the timing at 60 degrees and continues to retard the timing as the air gets hotter.The ECU can correct for something stupid like 150 degree temps!!

Also the reason why the ECU retards the timing is because the as the air gets hotter, the air also expands.

This means that for a given volume, the air is less dense at a higher temperature than a lower temperature. There for the volume of oxygen in the air is reduced making it run richer.

What the reduction in oxygen causes is a different burn rate meaning that the spark timing has to be delayed to account for the slower burn time for the hotter, less dense air/fuel mixture. The reason why it needs delaying is so that the cylinder reaches it peak combustion pressure at the correct time ready for when the piston is going back down.

It isn't dangerous for the engine in the slightest. The reason why we don't really want high air charge temps is because the retardation of the timing costs power and the more it retards, the higher the defecit is on the power output.

On the KE Jet, this retardation makes a huge difference. I certainly notice it on my car after it had been parked up for a while (heat soak).

Hope that clears up a few issues.

 

lol, leave em too it Daz

 

Just bought one off these off AndysRS (excellent seller by the way), not fitted it yet but will do great for me cause I don't want big bhp. It's got to be better than standard.