Is it ever coming?,will it be worth selling my Escos and saff 4x4 for one?,can I put a deposit down yet,and more importantly should I?
anyone have any inside info on it?

 

I think if it does ever appear it will be the cosworth of all cosworths , really hoping it will come one day

 

From what I've been told by a Ford dealer on another forum, the Focus Cosworth will probably appear around 2007. The Mk2 ST will be on a par with the Mk1 Focus RS and there will be a Mk 2 RS sitting somewhere inbetween.

 

Yeah, sell them both now and get an Evo 7. When the FoCos comes out you wont care

 

I cant wait for Focus cossie to cum out if it does appear . I want one. Mind you, me name is down for new Fiesta Rs

 

Are there any details yet on prices?

 

no not yet, but estimate is 19995 for rs fezzy

 

any one reckon it will be about 30 grand?
or more.................?

 

Ouch, for a fiesta!! Does look nice tho! Any idea of performance figures?
Compared to focus??

 

ive heard focus cosworth wil be out in the near future and i guess they going be the thing to have aswell not that you see many about

 

Why is it that expensive?

Better be one fast mofo of a car to be worth that money - that's more expensive than a Honda Civic Type R and you could also get a secondhand Focus RS for similar money.

Just can't understand why Ford is only doing them in limited production runs - only possible reason I can see is to increase profit rather than cost of producing them.

Why can't Ford stick their neck on the line and make a large production run of high performance hatches - like they used to!

Just my tuppence worth!

Cheers,

Andy

 

so,30 grand for Focus Cosworth or more

 

ID SAY 25-30 YEAH SUPPOSE DEPENDS WHICH SPEC SUPPOSE ASWELL

 

A Focus Cosworth will be at least Ł25k, probably Ł30k in my opinion, because it'll be pitched at the same level as the Evo IX / X / MM / whatever model designator they've reached this week, and the Scooby STi WRX Type 42 Destroyer Extra Turbo Type With-Bells-On Model T Spec Q.

am I right in thinking profit margins on the Focus RS were slim to none? Or possibly negative as it was a PR exercise, hence the limited run?

 

can you place a deposit yet? is it only certain dealers who you will be able to do this with?

 

i reckon about Ł28k for focus cossie

 

IMO Ford should

1. Drop the Focus RS
2. They seem to being making the next ST Focus basically a de tuned Focus Rs anyways price it say 18k.
3. Make the Fiesta RS depending on spec price it 17k (no one will pay 20k for a fiesta)
4.Make a Focus Cosworth give it minimum 300bhp price at around 30k maybe abit more to compete against evo's and scooby's

 

All very good points Kev.

1. The market for it is too large to ignore
2. The mk2 ST is likely to be very similar to the Mk1 RS (i.e. not de-tuned)
3. I'd certainly hope they realise a Ł20k Festa ain't gonna sell, particularly as the Focus ST will be in that price bracket.
4. It's gonna happen!

 

Don't know of anyone taking deposits.

 

I also think the Focus Cosworth should get the 5pot Volvo lump not the mazda engine but not sure if 5pot is aloud in wrc ??

I also dont think the ST will have the Focus RS trick diff big wheels etc thus to keep the cost down

Ford have to find ways to make the RS cheaply not as they did with the Focus RS instaed of re programing the robots that build the car to work with the Rs bits Fit normal bits ie dummy wheels and seats then get a human to unfit them and refit them

ps im having a Fiesta RS shame i cant aford a focus Cos

 

I heard someone say that end of 2005/2006 is when we could expect the Focus Cos,do you think this is realistic or bullsh*t from this 'Ford Employee',surely we would have seen some scoop pics and I have only ever seen the photos of the red 'Focus RS' that supposedly had the new running gear etc from the new Cos

 

it will have a volvo 4x4 system

 

come on someone must have some insider info

 

Any one know the spec of the new fezzy RS? Is it a turbo? A friend who works at bristol streets told me its N/A???

 

seen it at goodwood and yes its n/a

 

So it'll be a jumped up ST!

 

i think the fiesta Rs will be very special

 

it will still be a fooking fiesta! :gayflag:

 

shut it mincer

 

It was recently released by ford that the Focus RS cost them in the region of Ł27k to build ! - selling every single one at a major loss. This was due to ford wanting the rebirth of the RS to be something special, and so much time and effort went in to getting it to be right - whether they did or not is another debate. However ford could still not justify a price tag much over Ł20k when you've got evo's and scoobies kicking about in the same market.

The Cossie focus, if it ever does come to life in about 2006 earliest will be at least Ł30k, as ford will not stand to suffer the losses they made on the last RS. Question is will this new focus be a marketing exercise (based on borrow designs) or a properly, full design rally shlag weapon ! ? - Ring any bells with what ford did between the S1 and S2 RST ?

 

The Focus RS WAS built as a standard 3 door Focus and then modified at an outside company by humans. BUT the wrc cars were built in batches at weekends and the robots were programmed for each body, and manually moved from machine to machine.


Cheers Jonno

 

It was in a copy of What car or one of those similar mags a few months back, its a whole new focus(shape). Not exactly nice but it just showed a side view pic in silver of the cosworth. And im sure it said volvo lump!!

 

If it comes out it wil be probably reshelled Volvo S60R, not really much fun - electronics, haldex and 5 cylinders :-(. Not homologation special like in the old thay. People - there won't be siuch cars as Escort Cossie, Delta Integrale, Mazda GT-R or Audi S1 Quattro - they where killed by FIA, enviremontalists and speeding obsession.

 

No dealer should be accepting/taking deposits for a car that doesn't exist.
But you should be able to register your interest with a dealer.
I have told my dealer I will buy one and I want to order as soon as the order book opens.
When this happens and the order is confirmed they will contact me and I will pay a deposit then. This is the way it should be and no money should change hands until the car is "officially" available fom Ford.
Quite a few dealers faced legal action from Focus RS owners over the way the whole deposit/order situation was handled.
One dealer even took a "full" deposit of well over Ł20k from one customer, then when the price was announced at Ł20k refused to return the difference until the car was delivered. The customer took legal action.
The same applies with the Fiesta RS Concept. It is still officially just that a concept and no dealer should be taking deposits on them.
Mike

 

got my name down for one, i was told they would be in the region of 34K but they also reckoned that the focus rs would be 27K when it came out but it was only 20K,
i wont part with any deposit until i get the full specs, dont want to buy some 220 brake volvo mishmash
cheers nomad ps i have basically done it same as mike, no dealer will take a deposit yet

 

There has been some scoop pics! I thought they had been posted on here?Buti have seen them

 

I have now registered my interest with Ford and will await the outcome
Mat

 

not sure how this post can exsit if we dont know, 1, if the car will be made and 2, if so what spec

 

True but by registering an interest with your dealer, they will pass this on to Ford.
Ford then realise there are x amount of people wanting the car enough to register interest, that there is a market for it and decide it is worth building. Hopefully.
Mike