Yo,

I got the car setup at Jamsport on Sat, all was mint!

Tonight the car comes on boost on the bypass and makes a scraping noise, I back off and then the engine is rattling, there is smoke....lots of oil I think?

Cant really see much as it is dark but the bleed valve that was fitted....was not on any more

any idea what could have happened? Pissed off is an understatement

ps. Not blaming anybody for this....

 

have you checked the turbo for play in the shaft ?

 

It only happened earlierm XR4x4rs is coming round now to have a look

 

Sounds like the bleed valve wasn't clamped in securely enough, and has blown off.

So........basically, your turbo will keep boosting and boosting and boosting until the weakest part of it lets go. Sounds like the bearings have shat it and the compressor and turbine has been fouling the casings.

My mates R5 GTT did this, he hadn't long had the car and it had a BRAND NEW (not recon) standard turbo from Renault, few thousand miles if that, pipe popped off the actuator and the shaft sheered clean in half

Bit of bad luck there but it could of been worse....?

 

Ok, Rich has just been round!

He thinks a piston has gone also and maybe the turbo....Where do I stand with this?

I have no clue about engines so I took it to Jamsport...You think they will help me out?

I have just spent 200 on a setup to get a blown up engine

 

Well you need to do a compression test first and get a definate answer whats wrong.

If its a piston then thats not easily fixed short of a re-build

I duno you could ring jamsport but i dont think they will really do a lot? Did you turn the boost up past the level they recommended when it was set up?

I expect they will say if the bleed valve has blown off then its not covered by any guarantee u may have had on the work?

 

I didnt touch a thing...I dont really know much (as you can tell) so I dont like to mess once a pro has set it up...

I am just gutted...spent 6 months sorting all the problems out on it and now look...back to where I was before I started

 

ok ive just got back home

from what i can see the bleed valve pipe has come off the turbo side

and the turbo has ran max boost bascially pressurissing the sump id say as there is oil everywhere

the bleed valve pipe is fuel line and is not clamped on at the actuator, turbo and bleed valve itself

its the pipe is also a very sloppy fit id say that goes onto the turbo and actuator, it needs to be clamped

we started the engine up and i had to hold it on revs to get it going, and it is missing and running lumpy, take teh oil cap off and it will tickover

whcih is opposite of what it should do? also a load of smoke coming out of the hole of the oil cap bascially breathing very very heavily

ill do a compression check tomorrow when poom gets back from work to see whats down,

ubut id say it fried a piston somewhere along the way

turbo side ill take a look when i take a boost pipe off

but the car still doesnt smoke on tickover or revs

but not good to hear about this as the car has only just come back on the road

 

Gutted does really not describe

 

Bad luck mate

Think my block is cracked in my cossie4i

Steve.

 

not good feel sorry for u aswell mate

 

The pipes being fuel line and not being jubilee clipped on will be the problem...........

The compression test will tell all but if its breathing heavy doesnt sound good?

You may have a fault on your breather system though if it runs with the cap off and is breating heavy.

Piston gone usually means smoke from the exhaust, so it might not be too bad

 

So what do you think it could be?

 

true

but i had a piston go aswell years ago and that never smokes but ran like a dog

basically done the comprerssion ring

 

Hmmmmmmm suppose, that compression test is going to be the decider.

 

yep will update tomorrow afternoon

 

What sort of power and boost was he running?

And how long was the car being run when he noticed these noises?

 

It was running 172BHP, 191lb torque with 15psi when it was setup on Saturday!

It came on boost and I heard a dodgy noise so backed off....then heard the tap tap tapping and crawled home at about 10mph for about 4 miles!

 

Tapping doesn't sound good.

xr4x4rs: you say none of the hoses from the compressor housing to the actuator were fastened on? And was fuel line? And apparently this was fitted by Jamsport?

 

The one on the actuator wasnt on but the one on the housing was.....

 

poom wrong way round

the bleed valve pipe came off the compressor housing

and it does look like rubber fuel line to me

 

Ahhh ok my bad!

 

Well.......fuel pipe aint the best stuff, but fastened on should have done the job. Its the lack of fasteners im a bit shocked at.

I'd give him a call personally, from what ive heard Jamie is supposed to be very good? See what he has to say and if hes willing to help out at all?

 

Yeah I will call him tommorow, not gonna slag him off or his work as it was amazing when it worked...will see what he says tommorow..

 

Worth a try

Right, its 3.17am, and im fucked

Night

 

jamie is very good and so are the rest of jamsport

i recommended them to him as i do with other people i meet

jamie has worked on my old cossy and rs turbos and never had a problem

but i was surprised at no clips aswell

 

Gonna call them in 5, wish me luck!

 

just whip the head off its an hour or so job....as we all know...

i would be suprised if its done a piston unless it was pinkin like a fooker but then surely you would hear this?

my first s2 did this almost exactly the same and it turned out to be the turbo shagged and the head gasket fooked proper!! the tapping was water in the oil making the lifters tap like hell,

good luck mate!

 

Yeah but even so that is still not my fault I dont wanna touch it till I have spoken to them!

 

if its overboosted ..then there is a very good chance of it cracking the land on the pistons where the rings fit...
all depends on the spec of the turbo dont suppose you saw what boost it was hitting when it made the noise????

 

quite correct mate! wasnt sayin otherwise.

 

So how did the phone call go?

 

Not called yet, waiting for Compression test...

Nah I didnt see the boost level Too busy panicking when i heard it and backing off

 

well ive just got up

i will be going round in about 30-40 mins to do a comp test on the car and have a better look at it in daylight

 

Lazy fooka

 

thats me
this is my usual time to get up lol

 

Bet hes sat there cursing at you

 

lol

just spoken to him on msn

he says no rush

he knows what im like anyhow

 

Stop torturing the poor lad

I'm sure he will make it worth your while one way or another??

 

Yeah, I havent got any ~KY at the mo! My mums just gone to the chemist for it!