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Old May 2, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Default can your ford turbo beat a coupe 20v turbo?

just wondering if any of you guys have raced a fiat 20v turbo as i am thinking of buying one or the other
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Before you even consider the Fiat, I hope you are aware that the engine needs to be removed in order to replace the cambelt...

And so your looking at around Ł1000 - Ł1500 for a proffesional job at a main garage, as most smaller ones wont even attempt it.

I know which one I would rather have between a Fiat and a Ford!

The Ford has endless supply of aftermarket parts available for performance increases, where as the Fiat doesnt. The Ford will hold more value too (im guessing your thinking of a cossie) and the Fiat will also be harder to sell on when the time comes. A good cossie wont loose much if any value as they are strong in the market for their age etc.
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Very exspensive servicing costs im led to believe !!!

Timing belt change can cost up to a grand and over that apparantly

heard of em runnin about 260ish horse but its a fiat so that will last about 20mins and then bang
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so basically the fiat 20v turbo is rubbish and i should go for the cosworth?
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Tottally up to urself !!!

Try and have a shot of both if u can ....

the cosworth was my childhood dream car and i tottally love it but they do cost money to maintain !!!!!


But all cars of this nature do , my cossie has been ultra reliable in the year ive owned it ,ive serviced it every 3 k ,replaced the sensors etc that can fail and kept it in tip top condition and ive done about lots of long distance miles and had my fun aswell !!!

Onlt thing thats just cost me is a new turbo and clutch ,fair doos its stage 3 tune and was a standard ford clutch and a t34 turbo from early escort cos and they are 13 years old now

Ideally if u buy a cossie treat it like a king and it will respect u and be faithfull , u just need to know what ur lookin for or ideally take extra eyes that does know about em and there faults !!
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You bunch of muppets

Cambelt and all ancillary belts can be changed for as little as Ł399. It's only an engine out job if you use the main dealer monkeys. Plenty of specialists around who change the belts with engine in situ.

Very easy to tune a 20VT to 260 bhp and upto 300 with additional cooling, fuel pump and a remap.

FFS, you drive Sierra's
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Originally Posted by coupe_20VT
You bunch of muppets

Cambelt and all ancillary belts can be changed for as little as Ł399. It's only an engine out job if you use the main dealer monkeys. Plenty of specialists around who change the belts with engine in situ.

Very easy to tune a 20VT to 260 bhp and upto 300 with additional cooling, fuel pump and a remap.

FFS, you drive Sierra's


Very good son very good , dont come on here with ur 1 post mouth and give it some , someone has asked for advice and they are getting what peeps know or have heard thats the way a forum should be ,friendly help as is why its a big family of helpful peeps on here !!!

Sierras are past motorsport legends and are still being used to this day in racing and tuning !!!! Where and what have fiat done to be so good ???????

but im not bad natured or mouthed ,i like to help or advise on here like most other peeps do on what they know or have heard !!!!

Dont be so rude and call peeps muppets

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Originally Posted by millsyscossie

Very good son very good , dont come on here with ur 1 post mouth and give it some , someone has asked for advice and they are getting what peeps know or have heard thats the way a forum should be ,friendly help as is why its a big family of helpful peeps on here !!!

Sierras are past motorsport legends and are still being used to this day in racing and tuning !!!! Where and what have fiat done to be so good ???????

but im not bad natured or mouthed ,i like to help or advise on here like most other peeps do on what they know or have heard !!!!

Dont be so rude and call peeps muppets
Get your facts right and people won't think you're muppets

Just correcting the incorrect information you gave to someone enquiring about a 20VT

Nothing against Sierras, they look good in my rear view mirror
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Considering i know 3 peeps who have owned them and there problems and repair bills i aint giving out wrong info !!!!

i stated it can cost up to .... and over a grand !!!!!!

There is always someone that could do it cheaper !!

Sum it up tho .... still a shite car

Never have had a fiat turbo in front of me ,always wasted em no probs

amazing how cack a coupe looks in my rear view mirror
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[quote="coupe_20VT"]
Originally Posted by millsyscossie

Nothing against Sierras, they look good in my rear view mirror
Any time any where mate...
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am just not sure when it comes to cars rear wheel or front wheel i do like the noise you get off a straight 5 cylinder the deep grunt does the cosworth have similar grunt? what about 0-100 times between both? or 30-70?
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[quote="p_jay78"]
Originally Posted by coupe_20VT
Originally Posted by millsyscossie

Nothing against Sierras, they look good in my rear view mirror
Any time any where mate...

You know this isn't passionfiat.com don't you?
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funny this....... i waisted a fiat turbo last nite....... almost blew the fucker over as i went past.....
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what type of cossie have you got JTECHSAFE? is it for sale?
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never for sale....... saffy 4x4
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F ix
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T omorow


says it all!
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
funny this....... i waisted a fiat turbo last nite....... almost blew the fucker over as i went past.....
Ahhhhh the chav in you rears its ugly head

I bet the sticker on the rear end of your Sierra (next to the MaxPower one) reads "My other car's a Scooby"

BTW its spelt wasted you numpty
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
F ix
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A gain
T omorow


says it all!
My sides are splitting

Ever thought of a career in Childrens TV
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You're pretty cocky for a guy who drives a Fiat. Is yours yellow? Please say it is...
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actually i do work at cbbc, why is that funny they pay very well....
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no no no ... the sticker in my rear window says " thats why i dont drive a fiat"
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Who you calling chav, your the one who started the chavy shit talking mate.
Someone was just trying to give their experence of the vehicle in question and you just jumped in calling ppl muppets. Everyone on here is there to help out not shit talk or or talk down to anyone. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you can start kicking off.
GROW THE FUCK UP.
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i used to have a fiat 20vt...... before the first cossie,
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You guys are funny

All I ever hear from people I have come up against are the same old excuses, it gets tiresome. I am sure there are a handful of really quick fords, but most of them always seem to be on an off day when I meet them.



Focus RS / Focus ST / Saphire Cosworth 4x4 / Escort Cosworth / RS Turbo's. I have had all of them

Yes the Cossie's were a good car, but they have had their time.

I chase a Focus RS down country lanes on a daily basis and it is so easy its not funny, I keep having to back off


Fords that have produced good times are the exception, most are on their last legs after years of abuse and amateur tuning!
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sorry did someone say something.........
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and you drive a.......
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I heard some chav in a saxo utter something?
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i dont class a standard focus rs as even moderatly fast......
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it also may be somthing to do with the fact that mr focus rs doesnt want to end up in a hedge, but mr chav in his Ł50 shitter doesnt care......
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Hold on two new members just happen to pop up in one page , sounds like a wind up here
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Coupe 20VT ( A couple of sensible mod's)

Which always gives me the ability to take the piss out of idiots and their chavvy fords.

I drink with Mr Focus RS and he is giving it 100% when he sees me!
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i have to say... being completly honest and not taking the piss for once, when i had my 20vt, i didnt think it was quick at all.. thats why i sold it, i only had it for two weeks, i really could never compare the two cars ever?
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Who you calling chav, your the one who started the chavy shit talking mate.
Someone was just trying to give their experence of the vehicle in question and you just jumped in calling ppl muppets. Everyone on here is there to help out not shit talk or or talk down to anyone. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you can start kicking off.
GROW THE FUCK UP.
The maturity of some of the posting in this thread is eye opening and maybe reflects the kind of person who buys a Cossie.

I was helping the original poster by correcting the 2 posts that were talking utter garbage.

As for kicking off you're the one using the gutter language

And I always love the "I had a xxxx car before my current yyyyy and it was cr@p" You're so original. Not bad for a 17 year old

Now get back to your Teletubbies.

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ive also had an evo 1, a nova, a caddy sport, a r32 skyline, a s1 rst......im not stuck on fords wank face.
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how about you get the fuck back to the shitty forum where you come from, eh. Or is there no one on it,because FIAT'S are SHIT and no one drives the fuckers.
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well anyway, when i had the fiat it was SHITE end of.... TBH id rather have had the nova back....... and that was shite too !!!!
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JTECHSAFF - the comments you post are very funny, please keep them up

JTECH stickers come from demon tweaks or halfords?

Are you sure the coupe you owned was a 20v turbo?

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That is so funny !

I mean come on how on this earth can you compare that fiat against a cosworth please !

i got tears in my eyes readin that a fookin fiat ,a fiat there absolutly garbage complete and utter crap full stop

God you guys crack me up



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