How easy are they to take out and put another one back in..?

CheeRS
Craig
NYRSOC

 

as far as i know a piece of piss. my mate took his out and replaced using just a flat ended screw driver and its all good. but I'm sure a few on here will say from there experience

 

Really easy mate!

Use a thin rope push it into the seal, place the screen in the right position & get someone to hold it there whist you go inside the car & pull the rope, as you do you will see the seal come into place inside the car.

HTH

 

or even that

 

I actually paid someone to do it recently, and its basically how AJ described it.

 

thats wot my dad said says hes done loads i feel bad now for checking lol, ive been going up the A19 for 4 years now everyday to work and 2day a fooking wagon chucked a stone and cracked it

 

Just be careful getting the screen out, the 3 inch crack in mine turned into one about a foot long when we booted it out.

 

Not good mate

Put a nice top tint one in

 

apparently ya cant get a heated front for less than £200 ?

 

I got one (new old stock) for 60 from someone on here, look around a bit. Who told you that price?

 

a bloke i was talking to said they were that new from ford

 

Ive got to admit I found that one on here straight away, it came from pilkington and was still in the wrapper. I did find though, getting quotes for fitting varied massively, from 150 quid to 40.

Suprised ford still do them.

 

I wouldnt bother with a new one mate, when we used to sell RS parts we used to knock heated green tints out for about £50.

 

dunno wot to do to be hoest paul @ North yorks has offered me a non heated for a good price but it should have a heated one really fooking wagons

 

if ya attempt it yaself be bloody careful as recently me and a mate cracked one when puttin it in the shell. its so easy to break it

 

Fucking PISH mate - would do em all day long if I could

Easiest way out is sit inside, foot up on the glass, top corner of screen and push with a little pressure. Using a large flat blade screw driver, gently un tuck the rubber from inside the car. Do this all the way along the top till the top and the two top corners are out.

Then outside the car just pull the whole screen and rubber forwards till you can lift it out in one go.

Remove rubber from old screen, fit to new screen (pish easy to do, you'll see how when you take it off)

Get some rope (thin-ish, don't want it too thick, or that coarse "frayed" type stuff either) and in the outer channel of the rubber (that the bodywork sits in, push your rope into it, all the way round, nice n tight. Make sure you leave a foot or so at the bottom middle for you to pull. Best way is to start from bottom middle, work clockwise, and over lap the bottom bit by 6 inches or so...

Then lift screen into place - it helps if you can get the bottom metal part of body into the groove in the rubber as far along as you can. Make sure it is lined square.

Sit inside, and begin to pull the string UPWARDS (always pull the string AWAY from the edge you are doing: so if you are doing the bottom, pull up, doing the left side, pull to the right, etc, with the string as FLAT to the glass as poss) It helps if you have a mate on the outside applying a bit of pressure, but if you are on your own, pull the string 6-8inches along, then go outside and tap the screen down by the rubber WITH A CUPPED HAND (never smack the screen with a flat hand, you could crack it. Don't be afraid to hit the screen, only ever seen a few crack, and that was from FLAT hand slapping

Go all the way round with the string, stopping ever 6-8 inches to tap it down from the outside. My advice, if you have never done it before : do the half bottom and one side first, then do the other half of the bottom and the other side, THEN do the top (go halfway) then do the other half of the top. The most important thing to make sure of is that your corners are sitting in properly and it is lined up right, other wise it won't sit tight and it'll leak water like a sieve

One last tip for you. If you have a squeazy spray bottle like this;



Empty it and fill it up with some screen wash fluid (the blue liquid is good). Spray the metal area of the screen aperture liberally with the screen wash BEFORE putting the screen in place.

Why? It is a natural lubricant. Screen wash is slippery and lubricates better than water. Most screen wash also contains alcohol and evaporates, meaning it won't sit there and rust your car You can also spray it all round where you put the string/rope on the rubber to. It just helps to let the rubber pop in nicely, so you con't have dry rubber being pulled against dry metal, which creates friction and is more hard work.

Lastly, here's a little diagram of what I mean;



(When you have fitted the new screen to the rubber, your string/rope goes in the gap where the car body aperture goes )

 

Get a heated screen for a mk4 Escort for less than a ton fifty (probably about £100) brand new from a glass supplier (such as Master Auto Glass --> http://www.master-auto-glass.com/ )

I'm sure the last time I did one at work it didn't cost £200....

If you was closer, I'd get you one at cost, and fit it for a score

 

talk about an essay thrush!!!


very informative

 

I work for Autoglass

 

 

Thrush, got any similar tips for swapping over rear side window glass? on the same car.

 

I had a couple in my series 2.

Tricky dicky sorted me out and fitted for me because I am too scared about stuff like that.

In the dark
In the rain
Taking my old screen out with big crack complete
Replacing with "new" screen

15 mins


Only thing he said was if you can get a new rubber it would make it easier to remove the old one and you cant just slice the rubber to remove the screen.. he used 2 screw drivers from the inside to remove

Jake

 

on a mk4, and mk3, Escort, the fixed (non-opening) rear quarter glass (and for that matter, the heated rear screen) are all fitted the same as the front, so all the above applies mate The rear quarter glass is probably the easiest to get out tbh, as it is the smallest, and being toughened glass, it is quite strong (far easier to break a rear screen than a rear quarter) but be advised - it will give you NO warning when it is about the let go, and when it does let go, it fucking goes off like a bomb Personlly, I sit in the back seat, and waering a cut proof glove (normal welders type gloves will do fine) just press some pressure against the glass with my hand. The removal process is the same as the screen, start at the top, work to both top corners, lift out from the outside. Only other tip I can think of is : on the outside of the car, put half a doszen strips of masking tape over the glass and the surrounding quarter panel - leaving enough slack for the glass to "pop" out... This means if you push to hard and it does actually pop out, it won't fall on the floor and smash while you sit there and cry about being all carefull and wasting 20mins for nothing Also stops it sliding down the paintwork and scratching it, which helps when doing a rear screen

No no no no no no no no no - I HATE it when someone asks you to fit a new rubber! They are tight as FUCK to fir with the new screen and there is a much higher chance of cracking the new screen with a new rubber as it is harder and not "formed" into the shape of the screen/car like the original. And I cannot see any reason why people should need to cut the original rubber to remove the windscreen, especially when the screen is broken. Maybe it's cos it's my job and am trained, but I have never had a problem removing a screen and rubber from an Escort (or Fiesta, Pug 205, Golf, etc) without braking the screen or tearing the rubber. Sure there is a risk, but it is very slight.....

 

Thrush, Thanks very much mate for your advice and offer..! paul rang me tonight and the screen he has for me is heated and a very LOW price aswell cant thank him enough although im sure ill get plenty of abuse thrown at me at the up and coming shows but nowts new there..lol

 

Dont use new rubber

Thrush nice explanation always found it easier to start with the rope from looping it both sides half way up.

 

No worries mate - always happy to help if poss!

You gonna have a crack at it yourself then? (No pun intended )

If you are, might I suggest one last thing? Take your time getting it out (and don't puch too hard with your foot in any one spot, so as to hopefully not break your original screen) If you get it out in one piece, I suggest you re-fit it just as practice before fitting your new screen. If you crack your old one, don't worry too much, you can still refit it unless it is completely fucked with bits of glass falling off everywhere lol...

This way you get the hang of fitting the screen before you have to "do it for real" with your new screen

 

True, you can do it that way - I always do that on large screen like Merc vans, or lorry's, but for ease of talking someone through it that has never done before, it's a lot easier not to mention looping the rope at certain points And on small cars like Escorts, 205's, Golf's, etc, you can get the corners lined up pretty easily from the outside, so less need for the loops - I have only ever found the need for loops on screens where it is virtually impossible to line up the corners (like the fooking Arctic I did last week - man THAT was a bastid Screen weighed a TON (took two of us to lift it) and it was a git to get in and get it flat )

 

me dads doing it for me ill help if needed he's done screens before (motor mechanic/body work) i just wanted to check if he was telling the truth when he said it was easy,lol thats faith for you eh..! lol

 

Windows in did take 10 mins after all, thanks to everyone for the help.

 

Good stuff!

 

off topic bit really but how much you recon for a saph heated front screen

its grey the car merc or nimbus i think

slight green tint in the windows

fed up of the scratch marks on it .old wiper ones

as im fully comp on insurance would they pay for it with stone damage

small hammer hit

ive heard old screens

heated some of the wires dont work

when fitted

 

Get on to your local RAC auto windscreens or Autoglass and get it sorted its got a nice blue top tint on it hasnt it

 

Lol, as Twist said

BC - depends who your insurance company is (who it is underwritten by, not who the broker is - for example, Dominon thru the RSOC is the broker, Highway might be the underwriter, or Norwich Union etc). SOme companies only deal with Autoglass, some only deal with RAC Auto Windscreens..... But being fully comp, then you are most likely covered for glass, and all you will have to pay is an excess, usually either £50 or £60

All you need to do is ring the relevant glass company and tell em what make, model and year of the car, and that you have a heated screen WITH A NICE BLUE TOP TINT

Then all you need to do is find a crack in the glass Sure that won't be hard

 

Thrush

cheers for the info

 

Don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet as to be honest i haven't read the whole post but...

Depending on what insurance you have and who with - sometimes you can get your windscreen replaced under your insurance without affecting your NCB and you only pay something like £50 excess...