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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Default steering judder UPDATED 14/04/06

had it for a while now changed 3 sets of disks as it quite bad under braking what else could cause it , knackered wheel ?

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right had the nearside caliper off 3 pistons siezed out of the four
and believe me there siezed so anyone got a set of front 2wd calipers forsale

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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If your on about the car in your Sig ?

Try checking/changing your track control arm bushes as under acceleration and braking it will allow the wheels to move forward and backwards



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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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cheers doug but i just replaced them all with poly items
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Whats the TCA bottom ball joint like for play then ? Did you check it ?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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yeh there fine would steering bushes cause it ?
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Why do you have play in them ?

Is it one side or both ?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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theres a fair bit of movement if u shake the steering wheel up down side to side
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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As its connected to the crossmember I would doubt its that unless there is a big problem with the end of the steering arms.

I'd still be looking down at the wheel end of things if its just under braking.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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so wat mabey balance or a bukled rim?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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As said above,will be a problem close to the wheel more than likely

Check wheel bearings,also that the wheels are sitting/fitting properly to the hub(correct spigot ring etc)

Are you 100% sure there is no play in bottom ball joints?????
Needs a big bar to lever them to check properly
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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I have this exact problem with my Rover !!

I found that when I had the wheels balanced acurately,it almost got rid of the 'wobble' completely.... It's back again,so I suspect that I've lost a balance weight !
Worth a try,for nothing,eh ??
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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cheers chap 4 the replies i thought that the wheels could be at fault but it normal caused by warped disks ill try and find some new spigot rings failing that fuck the 17s off lol
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If you suspect a rim, try swapping it for one off the back.

If it is still there than look at TCA's, bushes, disc's, pads, calipers, bearings etc. If it goes then its the wheel or tyre.
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I've got the same problem on my XR4x4 and I'm 99.9% sure it's the front hubs that are bent/distorted, it is common problem on the XR but I don't know if the Cossie suffers from the same thing, clamp the disc to the hub with some wheel nuts and give them a spin with a piece of wire clamped or bolted on to use as a pointer on the outer edge of the disc, if they run out of true with new discs then the hubs are fooked.

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Have you got spigot rings in them then m8???????

Could just need the hubs/alloys cleaning up a bit

Clean the hubs up with a bit of emery cloth,and put a bit of grease on them before you stick the wheels on

Also its important to make sure the face of the hubs are clean before you put new discs on,this will give the same effect as warped discs because the disc doesn't sit flat on the hub if there rust/mud etc between disc and hub
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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cheers for the advice coskev also didnt realise the hubs could be shot either
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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Does it judder all the time or only when you brake or only at low speed, or only at high speed ?
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 05:29 AM
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very little then when brake its evil
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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Sounds more suspension related, maybe bush or tca or something in that area?

Your not using anything made by EBC on your front discs or pads are you ?
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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nope im note but this is why i think its a wheel coz it has all new bushes fitted
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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I would be supprised if a wheel could cause violent vibrations but anythings possible with Cossies
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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It sounds like your outer CV joint mate.

Give it another 1000 miles and it will spill its guts all over the road. Just like mine did
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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its 2wd mate
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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well it looks like the nearside caliper is siezed by the looks of it
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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UPDATE

right had the nearside caliper off 3 pistons siezed out of the four
and believe me there siezed so anyone got a set of front 2wd calipers forsale
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Old May 28, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Andy RST, or anyone !

Wonder if you could help as you mention brake judder at slow speed. I've just changed my lower arm for a second hand spare I had lying around as the rubber boot was split. I had a really difficult job to get it back together.
The ball joint in the arm I took off was stiff and the one i replaced it with was easy to move around. I've been told that the stiffer the ball joint is the better ? and so it seems i would have been better off replacing the boot on the original one.
I also reused the poly bushes from the original arm. Is this ok ?
The reason I ask is that at slow speeds I now have slight pulsating of the brake pedal as if the ABS is kicking in but the light does not come on in the dash. Breaking at speed seems fine.
Do the powerflex poly bushes come with new washers for the anti roll bar ?
Any advice ?

Cheers
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Originally Posted by steventoon
Andy RST, or anyone !

Wonder if you could help as you mention brake judder at slow speed. I've just changed my lower arm for a second hand spare I had lying around as the rubber boot was split. I had a really difficult job to get it back together.
The ball joint in the arm I took off was stiff and the one i replaced it with was easy to move around. I've been told that the stiffer the ball joint is the better ? and so it seems i would have been better off replacing the boot on the original one.
I also reused the poly bushes from the original arm. Is this ok ?
The reason I ask is that at slow speeds I now have slight pulsating of the brake pedal as if the ABS is kicking in but the light does not come on in the dash. Breaking at speed seems fine.
Do the powerflex poly bushes come with new washers for the anti roll bar ?
Any advice ?

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