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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Was reading the article about Harvey and SCS in performance Ford and wondered if anyone on here was running the 445 conversion they spoke about.

Looking at increasing power on my own EsCos currently with stage 3 and rs500, GPA breather system.

What sort of costs are involved and whats the actual spec????

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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Billabong, DaveEsCos are running that setup...

I wouldnt expet change out of 7k tbh
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Bill is the only one running that conversion, Dave has not got the experimental turbo on that is needed to achieve the 445-450bhp that Bill's has. Yes you're looking at Ł7k .
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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Yes, I have 439

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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Cue Mikes reply

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Not 445-450 though is it
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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fucking will be when I slap a GT35 on it though

AND some!



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Awesome conversion for a road car imo, low lag, pulls like a bitch all the way to the redline. You'll need the transmission/brakes sorting too though, so budget for that.
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Originally Posted by Billabong
Awesome conversion for a road car imo, low lag, pulls like a bitch all the way to the redline. You'll need the transmission/brakes sorting too though, so budget for that.
So what brakes are on yours at this precise moment?
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Billabong
Awesome conversion for a road car imo, low lag, pulls like a bitch all the way to the redline. You'll need the transmission/brakes sorting too though, so budget for that.
So what brakes are on yours at this precise moment?
LOL..I wasnt going to say anything ...
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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But I have in car boost control AND self restraint

Brakes are being sorted at the moment by a very nice man

p.s. was only on boost position 5 at Brunters
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Was going to ask about this as well.

I have a T38 ready and waiting for a engine to do it justice.

Is the 7k for a complete engine ?

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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Holly f*ck 7k? what do you get for that, surely not just an engine
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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A beast of an engine though.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Fully rebuilt unit, new pistons etc. 6 long studded block, WRC metalic multi-layer head gasket, injectors, turbo, cams, Nick Waples (one of the best in the business) worked head, O ringed inlet, big wing sump, dyno mapped, etc. etc. the list goes on and on.... and reliability to boot.

No, not just 'an engine' a reliable engine which delivers what I asked (and that wasn't a bhp figure ) from one of the top engine builders. How much do you think a 450BHP conversion should cost? There's probably cheaper, (and dearer) out there, I stuck with who I know (for a long, long time) and trust implicitly.

That's not to say there aren't others who I respect and trust (Martin@Reyland, Stu, Karl etc..) but I've know Harvey for donkeys years and so unfortunately no-one else got a look in.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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God you sound like Rainbird
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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...i just hope you aint sucking the sausage!!!
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Lol bill, noit just a engine reminded me of the M and S adverts!
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Nope, just a VERY happy customer

I only 'bang on' about my engine to those who ask....

I have a small group of people who I trust with my car, and I like to put work their way e.g. Harvey, Martin, Mike R, Stu, CTS - They've all given me EXCELLENT service & advice, and when I get good service, I like to thank them and point others in the right direction.....

I've pointed plenty of people in your direction too, Phil

New & slightly uprated front diff, Quaife shot peened & polished gearkit (Fixit wasn't an option at the time, as the kit wasn't 'complete' ) I'll worry about the rear diff if and when it goes....
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Fully rebuilt unit, new pistons etc. 6 long studded block, WRC metalic multi-layer head gasket, injectors, turbo, cams, Nick Waples (one of the best in the business) worked head, O ringed inlet, big wing sump, dyno mapped, etc. etc. the list goes on and on.... and reliability to boot.
The frustrating thing is the fact I paid Ł5,325, for my engine, identical to above, but uses std cams, NO Waples headwork and my original T34 (rebuilt), for 375 Brake, so theoretically for an extra Ł1.7k, I could have had a bigger turbo a modded cam (or two) and reworked head and 450 brake Which is a shame as in the grand scale of things it isnt alot more money ... But as I have said before, the line had to be drawn and I maintain I was more than happy with it when it was just stgIII
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Damo, as you know I was looking at going the same route as you, but once the gearkit was sorted, it seemed daft not to throw a little more through it, as I only wanted to do it once. Could also have gone for more, but as said, you have to draw the line somewhere and mine is a daily driver....so I feel I have the perfect setup for me.
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And Mine STILL hasnt been set up
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Thought you were on the case with Ahmed?
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Yeah I was/am/have been for 4 months....
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mine will have it very very soon
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
And Mine STILL hasnt been set up
Well after spending Ł5325 on your engine i do hope you get them figures in your sig

Steve.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
Holly f*ck 7k? what do you get for that, surely not just an engine
I have been quoted more for a standard rebuild
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Originally Posted by frog
Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
Holly f*ck 7k? what do you get for that, surely not just an engine
I have been quoted more for a standard rebuild

I dont understand that tbo where does more than 7k go on a standard rebuild, and what are they doing thats 7k worth that IF you were handy couldnt do yourself for much less, im not saying that spending 7k on a build is wrong or not good, i just dont see where the money goes, two very handy mates helped me do my build on my car and it cost just under 2k, it took a while but i wasnt that bothered, and all i can say is it runs like an absolute dream, if i had a receipt from harvey saying it was a 7k build im sure you wouldnt disagree, ( ok less the injectors, turbo and that )
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
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And Mine STILL hasnt been set up
Well after spending Ł5325 on your engine i do hope you get them figures in your sig

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He already has - they're accurate engine dyno figures @ flywheel. Damo's talking about an in car tweak/setup now the engine is in the car.
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Yeh Ł7k for a standard rebuild is a bit shocking, unless everything was brand new

But Ł7k for a Harvey 445 engine sounds pretty good to me
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Originally Posted by Damo V
And Mine STILL hasnt been set up
Well after spending Ł5325 on your engine i do hope you get them figures in your sig

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Oh I did ... on the dyno
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Originally Posted by Rossco
Yeh Ł7k for a standard rebuild is a bit shocking, unless everything was brand new

But Ł7k for a Harvey 445 engine sounds pretty good to me
My figure includes a brand new longstudded block (plus machining) and WRC H/G which are probably the biggest portion In my case IMO
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Would be great to go down that route for my escort but that much power in rwd cant be fully usable.

Good to hear Nik is still doing his headwork, my x mrs was Niks daughters best mate, many hrs was spent dribbling over his work in his workshop, He done a 1.4 Nova head for me worth a fortune but sadly a rod let go and soon sorted the head out

Will without doubt get him to do a head for me as some point though for the cossy.

Davescos- has your car actually been anywhere or do just just keep changing your engine spec ? ? awesome looking car IMO
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I *think* he semi-retired now Jonny, and spends most of his time in a sunnier climate than the UK

I have what I consider a good T38 Dave, and it's capable of more than I have currently....
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Looks awesome
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Originally Posted by Billabong
I *think* he semi-retired now Jonny, and spends most of his time in a sunnier climate than the UK

I have what I consider a good T38 Dave, and it's capable of more than I have currently....
He lives in spain dosn't he?
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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An interesting read fellas, certainley seems worth the figure.

I can feel my bank balance lightening already

Brakes are well up to the job and just had rebuilt box installed so i hope it would hold out for a while anyway.

Would prob go for boost controller to turn it down for non track use give the transmission half a chance
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"Si Senior"

Holty, yes it can come with a 12 position boost controller. It still pulled really well whilst running in at lower boost.
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I also have a "good" t38 . Suplied by Vince @ UT

Reckon i should see those figures too
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