MP3 player Q
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Hi all
Just trying to decide which MP3 player to buy. I want alot of music off my mates mac, he is really into his ipod and says i can only get the tunes off his mac if i get a ipod, but what i want to know is can i copy and paste the tunes from itunes into media player or what ever software comes with a different mp3 player?
apart from that q which mp3 player would you reckomend?
cheeRS
Just trying to decide which MP3 player to buy. I want alot of music off my mates mac, he is really into his ipod and says i can only get the tunes off his mac if i get a ipod, but what i want to know is can i copy and paste the tunes from itunes into media player or what ever software comes with a different mp3 player?
apart from that q which mp3 player would you reckomend?
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From: The Dark Side of the Moon...
Right, you can only use iTunes to transfer music to an iPod, but it's more than likely that most of the music files will be MP3 file format (some might be AAC, which Apple have been pusing a lot, specially for the iPod Nano's)
If you get a "normal" MP3 player (ie, not an iPod) these are usually designed to plug into a PC and show up in MY COMPUTER as a removeable storage drive, so you can drag n drop MP3 (and often WMA) files from your music folder on the PC, and transfer via USB cable. I don't know of any other than Sony's ones and the iPod that use a specific programme to transfer the music (Sony uses a programme called Sonic Stage, or OpenMG, to transfer the music, so while it's tranferring it converts to ATRAC3, same file type as used on Minidiscs). For this reason alone I would steer clear of Sony. Personally I would go for a USB "Flash" based mp3 player, as these don't have any moving parts so are less likely to corrupt or crash... Downside is that the biggest you can get is usually 1gb (some are 2gb)
If you want to get some of your mates music off his Mac onto an MP3 player that isn't an iPod, I suggest just get him to burn what you want onto a CD-R disc as data files (they will show as MP3 or AAC depending on what the file type is) Stick the CD into your PC, and copy the files to a location on your hard drive. If there are some AAC files you can easily convert them back to MP3 using a converter programme, available for free, legal download here;
http://www.nch.com.au/switch/plus.html
As far as MP3 players go, I would be looking at something like these;
1gb MP3 listings
Or these, if you want 2gb storage
2GB MP3 listings
For reference, I just slotted a 1gb MMC card into my phone (which acts as an MP3 player with same controls as a Nano) and I have 19 full albums (ripped at 128k mp3) and still have 50mb or so free space on it
**(Listings from ebay are to illustrate what type of media device and it's specs, of course these are available from high street stores, just remember they will probably cost a fair bit more from the highstreet
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If you get a "normal" MP3 player (ie, not an iPod) these are usually designed to plug into a PC and show up in MY COMPUTER as a removeable storage drive, so you can drag n drop MP3 (and often WMA) files from your music folder on the PC, and transfer via USB cable. I don't know of any other than Sony's ones and the iPod that use a specific programme to transfer the music (Sony uses a programme called Sonic Stage, or OpenMG, to transfer the music, so while it's tranferring it converts to ATRAC3, same file type as used on Minidiscs). For this reason alone I would steer clear of Sony. Personally I would go for a USB "Flash" based mp3 player, as these don't have any moving parts so are less likely to corrupt or crash... Downside is that the biggest you can get is usually 1gb (some are 2gb)
If you want to get some of your mates music off his Mac onto an MP3 player that isn't an iPod, I suggest just get him to burn what you want onto a CD-R disc as data files (they will show as MP3 or AAC depending on what the file type is) Stick the CD into your PC, and copy the files to a location on your hard drive. If there are some AAC files you can easily convert them back to MP3 using a converter programme, available for free, legal download here;
http://www.nch.com.au/switch/plus.html
As far as MP3 players go, I would be looking at something like these;
1gb MP3 listings
Or these, if you want 2gb storage
2GB MP3 listings
For reference, I just slotted a 1gb MMC card into my phone (which acts as an MP3 player with same controls as a Nano) and I have 19 full albums (ripped at 128k mp3) and still have 50mb or so free space on it

**(Listings from ebay are to illustrate what type of media device and it's specs, of course these are available from high street stores, just remember they will probably cost a fair bit more from the highstreet
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From: The Dark Side of the Moon...
One word of advice tho with Flash based mp3 players. NEVER right click it from MY COMPUTER and select "FORMAT", as if you do, it won't work ever again as it will erase the installed software that makes it play MP3's
And 99% of maufacturers won't have software that you can install yourself
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From: The Dark Side of the Moon...
6gb is gonna be hard drive based - which is okay, but like I said - HDD based units have moving parts (basically a mini HDD with a needle to read the disc) so are more susceptible to corruption and getting stuck. Tho you do have to give em a pretty good hard whack to get em to skip, thanks to the buffer levels in em....
I would be looking then at the Creative products, as Creative stuff seems to be very VERY good indeed - not cheap tho!
Creative Listings
I would be looking then at the Creative products, as Creative stuff seems to be very VERY good indeed - not cheap tho!
Creative Listings
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From: The Dark Side of the Moon...
This is probably right up your street;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Creative-ZEN-M...QQcmdZViewItem
Creative (quality), 6gb capacity, flash-based (no internal moving parts) and super small...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Creative-ZEN-M...QQcmdZViewItem
Creative (quality), 6gb capacity, flash-based (no internal moving parts) and super small...
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