Generally speaking as i am not really a fan of fiats

 

they make a beautiful sound with a nice exhaust!! and tuned they are very quick

 

m8 it will rot within 2days of owner ship and the arches start to go after bad use,my mates son has one-a 20v turbo ,and hes had 3 gearboxes,2 engines,3turbos and 2 handbrake cables!!!and the bonnets can take your roof in because there is only 1 hinge holding it down and wen it fliks up the lights and all come up,so your then screwwed!!

 

And there made out of baked bean cans

 

good one!!! cum on its a fiat!!all of em are shit

 

FixItAgainTomoro=fiat

 

the 20 valve ones have design fault with the pistons and clearance the 16 valves ones are the better ones to go for also check that the key code light goes out once started as this can be big trouble also the injectors light should go out a few seconds after starting it if it stays on its more likely to be loom fault . I should no I work on them day in day out

 

fantastic cars and you can pick up a 20v turbo for peanuts


just make sure it isnt due a cambelt change

 

My mate had 1 for a year and it never broke once, and he absolutly killed it everyday.

Was rapid as standard and beat stage1 cossies.

Timing belts are costly to get done. other than that there fine his had 60,000 miles on it with full history, full leather etc etc

He sold it for £3500 so cheaper than a cossie and nearly into erst money.

I although its a fiat there a far better equipt car than an erst

 

mate had one, i liked it, but he did have problems. the suspension is far too soft as std too. Quite nippy, but defo not quicker than a stage 1 cossie!

 

well i got a cossie now but might fancy summit else i know we are all ford people here but hey

abdr500 anything more on them you can tell me i should know ? like headgaskets and shit like that? and i am talking about a 16 v one

 

Rene
16 valve one are less problems but still turbos and looms is what to look out for as for head gasket not realy that common on the 16 v or 20 v

 

Rick

All i know is that my mate had a bog standard 20v turbo and my other mate had a stage1 4x4 cossie running 18psi boost and the 20v turbo was quicker. My mates 4x4 was rolling roaded at 257bhp so take of the tranny losses etc etc and its perfectly viable that the 20v is quicker.

Thay are a cracking car for the money imo but suffered BADLY from torque steer used to pull like a bastard towards the central reservation when booting it in 4th.

Geared proper long as well.

 

read this mate


http://forum.fordsport.org.uk/viewthread.php?tid=7987

 

bazzawade


But then look at how many threads there has been on here about cossies and rst's shitting themselves

 

i ma pals had the lm model with 6 gears and push button starter,differant wheels sideskirts etc,tuned 2 290bhp and it was quick but he got rid of it cos it was so unreliable!!

 

theres a lad on our club site www.fordsport.org.uk hes got one and 1st day getting it back on the road the crank tryed to escape out the side of the block and is now being broke

 

maybe he did summit wrong ? i dunno but fords arent really reliable as well LOL been there done that

 

they have garrett turbo dont they? as my bro's punto gt had a garrett one?

 

yes they garrett turbo fitted to them .its just that the breather part of the engine is not all that and causes oil to back up into the turbo seen it lots of times and try not to fit a cone filter as it burns out the mass meter then you fucked as they cost 490 +vat

 

Yeah i read they have that shonky MAF sensor instead of a proper MAP sensor

 

mate had one years and years ago

bda bits:

the 20V version is better in someways than the 16V version, but the 16V is the same engine as found in the delta's, so it's going to be fairly good

if it needs a cambelt change it's an engine out job

the metal the panels are made from is about as thick as tracing paper, and you can dent it simply by poking it with your finger

the leather in the back is really slippery uch:

you can't fix the headlights

good bits:

they are really really fast for what they are

handling is great when it was new, not so sure how it will handle when they are this old

torque steers like a tripped out volvo T5 (ok, so thats good or bad depending on how you look at that sort of thing)

the dash is great

after that, make up your mind time

 

cant fix the headlights?

 

they are adjustable
but if the adjustable little lever breaks you have to buy a whole new headlight
back then they were around the £300 mark
so about half the value of the car

don't get me wrong, if you gave me one for free i'd take it and drive it like a loonatic

but i wouldn't spend my money on one, may mate bought his for £14500 and sold it about 18 mnths later for around £8500

i told him to buy the 944 turbo but he wasn't having any of it and thats his fault

 

There used to be a pretty fast one round my way a couple years back. Had nos too...looked pretty gay tho!

 

hmmmm would u take one over a mk5 RS2000?

 

there used to be a purple one when stockly park was the place to be
that was really quick and made a proper nice noise as it would go round and round

 

 

Book time for a cambelt is about 14 hours and engine out jobbie


But........... it can be done with the engine in the car in about 4hrs if you know how


Steve

 

yup, you just bend the chassis rail round because it's made of such thin materials

 

Don't Fiat claim these at 220bhp? I had one with a real 170bhp in my 200sx, don't like Fiat at all!

 

Dan


It might have been a 16v 1 you raced or a shit example cause a mate had a good well looked after 20v turbo 1 and for a standard motor it was very quick