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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Default Brake hose exploded!! Time to sell up me thinks...

This is what shouldn;t happen at 50mph when the MOT guy is out testing the brakes on your car!!



Yup, failed on handbrake, service brake (brake hose), bit of welding needing done on the sill, tiny bit on floor pan by seat mount, 2 front tyres (knew if would )

Fed up and going to sell it once MOT and brakes fitted

Just not worth keeping a car that does this all the fooking time
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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that a braided item
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Unfortunately with RST's this is the story. If it wasn't for the attachment I have to the car, it would have prob gone 7 years ago. Every year there was a disaster. Broke it once, kept shell, wheels, etc. Rebuilt it at a cost and boom, head looked like someone had used Oxy acetylene on it. For absolute constant unreliability you can't beat a Ford. Had a MR2 Turbo I sold to help fund the comeback and it never missed a beat once. Say's something I think
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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that a braided item
Yeah mate, shocking eh?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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feck, good job you weren't giving it large....could have been interesting to say the least
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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James you sure you not upset someone and someone's cut that?
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When I had that crappy ABS system on the car one of the ABS module hoses blew apart exactly the same. One of the many reasons it was removed.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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We 'think' it may have been chaffing on the strut, but not too sure

Not the easiest thing to get to with MOMO Arrows on ya car (not much space)

I just fed up now, enjoy this years shows and then sell up
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by James Raby
We 'think' it may have been chaffing on the strut, but not too sure
I was going to say, there would have to be a serious fault with the hose for it to just explode. Its more likely it had been damaged previosly

Did the MOT tester not spot it BEFORE test driving it?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Flexi should joint is welded to inner wing, so shouldn't have been chaffing on anything
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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No mate

We passed him taking the car back to my house (driving) as was going to Post Office, popped into garage on way back to see what outcome was, fluid all over the entrance to the garage

He got back, was VERY concerned and said it's at yours, needs fixing and dangerous to drive

Nothing to say he'd/they'd have a go at repairing the car, who the hell am I? A full blown mechanic???

Really had enough
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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The only way that would have exploded would be if there was a serious kink in the hose, or if it had rubbed clean through the braided material.

You any idea what these hose materials are pressure tested to? I know, and let's just say it's more than your braking system can supply!
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Flexi should joint is welded to inner wing, so shouldn't have been chaffing on anything
but the hose has to get to the caliper from the joint don't it

All I can assume is the rubber grommet came out from strut and was chaffing, something you don't check for is it
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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ive blown a braided hose on my esc cos

not as bad as that though
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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Just out of curiosity James, how old were they?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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Guessing on 4 yrs old???
Rough estimate
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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i take it the mot tester was driving the car at the time it happend mate ??????

if so why thay have a break tester for that.

if he had an accident what would of happend then????????
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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Barry, don't they have to drive it due to LSD in the gearbox??

You are correct, tester was driving car at time
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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James - nope.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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The break testers used to be a motion type device. You drove the car, braked and a pendulum swung to tell you the brake imbalance. Depends on their equipment although I'm not sure if the old ones are still legal!
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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James, this is what my local MOT station use
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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no mate ive had mine 3 years and never once did any one take it out.

gearbox does not come under mot anyway.

did it happen when he was taken it back to your house or when he toke it up the road for a test drive????????
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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Test drive mate, well I presume so cos MOT sheet been filled in to say hose failure
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by James Raby
Barry, don't they have to drive it due to LSD in the gearbox??
sorry but no they dont have to check that

I wouldnt let an MOT tester drive my RST.

As far as i know all mot work should be undertaken on the mot premises ?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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andy rst is right, no car is to be driven on the road when it goes for an mot.

i would say thay just wanted to drive it to see what it does as some do.

was the hose spotted before thay had taken it for a drive ???? or a thrash ????????
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More to the point if it had already failed on the sill, handbrake, tyres x2 then why was the mot tester out in it at all, knowing that it was unroad worthy
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Originally Posted by BARRY EVANS
no car is to be driven on the road when it goes for an mot.
Unless they don't have the facilities to the brakes on a 4WD on the premisis.

not that an RST is 4WD tho
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Barry, answered the hose question twice above I think already, no it was not sptted or you got to be a complete prat to drive it ain't ya!!!

Local garage (trust 110%) do NOT thrash my car at any time and have worked on it many a time and very happy with said work
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Andy, good point matey
Did have advisories on it, also wasn't home to be told car is un-roadworthy
Got told this when saw them at MOT station
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Absolutely no reason why an MOT tester should take the car on the road. If i were you I would find out why it was being driven. If he has any reservations about a cars safety then it should be noted on the sheet, if its exceptionally dangerous then they will say its unfit to drive, they should not test drive it to see. Thats a load of bollox bout the diff.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by James Raby
wasn't home to be told car is un-roadworthy
Got told this when saw them at MOT station
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"The statutory test does not specifically include a road test of the vehicle, except for vehicles which cannot have the performance of the brakes tested on a roller or plate brake tester.
A road test, however, is permitted if the tester considers one is necessary to check the results of an inspection. The tester must be qualified to carry out the road test, and must ensure it is safe to conduct that test."
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Which it obviously wasn't
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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If it HAD been checked the car would be in the right hands to sort the problem, as it is now - it's not
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if the car was not roadworthy it should be left there at the mot station and not been taken back to customer.

rs. nissan {andy} your right about if its a 4x4
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A car with an LSD should NEVER be used on a MOT braking machine .

Very easy to screw the diff up completely , ALWAYS insist on the machine they put inside your car, be it electronic or the mechanical swinging one.


As Pon says, them hoses are tested at stupid pressures but it could be something simple like it was kinked badly when fitted and has gradually been degrading until Bang .


Like you James I got totally sick of spending money on what shouldnt have needed spending on, so I decided to get rid and buy something that doesnt need fixing every weekend. The Audi has been great upto now , but miss the turbo rush

Will get something worth spending money on when the time is right
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Originally Posted by Adam Ash
A car with an LSD should NEVER be used on a MOT braking machine .

Very easy to screw the diff up completely , ALWAYS insist on the machine they put inside your car, be it electronic or the mechanical swinging one.
Why will it screw the diff up?

the machine only turns the wheels over at 5-6 mph, how can that be worse than wheel spinning in a corner and spinning the LSD up at high speed?
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by Adam Ash
A car with an LSD should NEVER be used on a MOT braking machine .

Very easy to screw the diff up completely , ALWAYS insist on the machine they put inside your car, be it electronic or the mechanical swinging one.
Why will it screw the diff up?

the machine only turns the wheels over at 5-6 mph, how can that be worse than wheel spinning in a corner and spinning the LSD up at high speed?
It brake test each wheel at a time, then both together. There are different tests for varying vehicles such as 4x4, LSD fitted vehicles. Some testers just ignore the guidelines and use the rollers. It isn't incase of harm
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didnt see you at ford fair today james ?

what happend did you get your car done ??
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One of the front brake claiper bleed nipples snapped mate, hence continuousl letting fluid out of the caliper

It was fooked big time!

Shame I couldn't attend, but TRAX is a definate and don't know anything else that's in between, can't be on stand at National Day 'cos I got a 3i shell LOL
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